Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Message-ID: <3B3A2852.2020908@gruntose.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:39:14 -0400 From: "Fred T. Hamster" MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: Cygwin: Open or Closed System? (was: two problems with cygwin's zip) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit regarding potentially inflammatory statements... i admit to a certain flavorful nature in my expressions. but i believe that when the context is examined, i am never directing these at a particular person. i don't think i'm directing them at a particular product or part of cygwin either. i'm mainly trying to offer the "absurd consequence" of the logic i am describing immediately above the colorful bits. i am trying to draw down closer scrutiny at the potential implications of investing in a particular viewpoint. it seems that this approach is getting across better with some people compared to other people. that's just the nature of people probably. luckily, there is no law dictating "how" one thinks, although of course that leads to there being no absolutely common ground for expression. damned tower of babel syndrome. and i am definitely a big fan of thinking for myself. but i have tragically failed in raising awareness of the issues if people got the impression (1) that i was making harsh remarks about them personally, or (2) that i was making harsh remarks about a product that i do indeed value quite a bit (cygwin), or (3) if the point itself wasn't established by the consequence due to a defect in either the reasoning or the applicability to the situation. so, my personal feistiness may have gotten in the way of clear discussion. i'm sorry about that, but it probably won't just go away entirely. i will do my best to contain it and keep it non-toxic. thanks, fred. -- _____ chosen by the Nechung Oracle Program [ http://www.gruntose.com/ ] _____ What an abyss of uncertainty, whenever the mind feels overtaken by itself; when it, the seeker, is at the same time the dark region through which it must go seeking, and where all its equipment will avail nothing. Seek? More than that: create. It is face to face with something which does not yet exist, to which it alone can give reality and substance, which it alone can bring into the light of day. -- Marcel Proust _____________ not necessarily my opinions, not necessarily not. _____________ -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/