Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Message-ID: <3B3915D0.8000402@dufair.org> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 18:08:00 -0500 From: Jason Dufair User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Subject: Re: two problems with cygwin's zip References: <3B390298 DOT 6030301 AT gruntose DOT com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fred T. Hamster wrote: > 1) if it really is not a goal to properly handle native filename > paths within cygwin, then this severely limits its appeal for those > already familiar with cygwin's single target platform (win32). in my > opinion, one cannot simultaneously disdain the win32 path conventions > and yet also promote a product that is intended exclusively for win32 > without resorting to some form of schizophrenia. I think it's unfair to blame "cygwin" for this "issue." zip != cygwin. Cygwin *does* provide facilities to deal with ms-dos pathnames. The cygwin authors/maintainers are in no position to change the zip tool. Your points may be valid, in and of themselves, but to make the necesaary change, you'd have to take it up with the maintainers of zip. I happen to believe that the current goals of the project are rather well considered. I'm looking forward to the day when any Unix/Linux app runs on Win32 with a simple compile or a simple installshield/rpm/deb binary install. At that point, the operating system becomes a commodity (especially if the app runs on MacOS X as well). Then, given the choice between 2 commodities, the users will pick the cheapest one. Free (in the liberty sense) software will prevail (at least at the OS level) and Win32 will simply no longer be needed, except to support legacy Win32-only apps. That will be a blessing to all people who depend on software. This is why I'd have a very hard time classifying cygwin as "closed." -- Jason Dufair - jase AT dufair DOT org http://www.dufair.org/ "The oldest one captains the bleak white ship of bone with palsied hands The one of middle years wears a hope like chains The youngest one cries tears of scarlet, and adjusts her latest smile" -- ToasterLeavings -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Bug reporting: http://cygwin.com/bugs.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/