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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:05:27 -0400
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>
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Subject: Re: viral  OFF-TOPIC
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In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010624164202.064b59b0@mail>; from superbiskit@home.com on Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 04:49:36PM -0400

On Sun, Jun 24, 2001 at 04:49:36PM -0400, David A. Cobb wrote:
>Ah, back to some M$ bashing -- hey, it's /fun/!  And it's a weekend, not 
>time for real thinking.

And, as far as I can see, off-topic as well.

This deinition of "viral" obviously has nothing to do with Microsoft's
EULA, assuming that is what this is all about.

cgf

>At 6/23/01 05:31 PM (Saturday), Robert McNulty Junior wrote:
>>I just read this in a dictionary of what viral is:
>>
>>viral (vi/rel) adj. of, or pertianing to, caused by, or of the nature of a
>>virus.
>>
>>
>>In that case, VISAUL BASIC SCRIPT is the viral software.
>>Visual C++ can be used to create virii too.
>>So, you see, can Cygwin Tools, if placed in the hands of people who don't
>>care about programming for good, but programming for evil. Hackers world
>>wide, crackers who use the tools to break codes etc.
>>Me?
>>I can barely get the binutils going, I can't even hack into my own bmj2002
>>account, and I hate virii.
>>The tools that are used to create virii have been MS tools like Visual C++.
>>After all, if you have this tool, which give you direct controls of Windows,
>>you can write
>>virii. With Visaul C++, I can come up with code quicker and faster. It gives
>>me a ahead start by creating basic building blocks. I can choose to support
>>many windows and menus. I can do anything I want it Visual C++.
>>Microsoft needs to put tighter control on its own tools.
>>Most of the hackers and crackers today use the Visual Tools. MS makes it
>>easy to get these tools.
>
>The EULA, basically, says that WE DEFINE AS "POTENTIALLY VIRAL" ANYTHING 
>OPEN-SOURCE.
>The theory [other than do whatever-it-takes to eliminate any perceived 
>threat] is that "hackers can see the source of the tool so they will know 
>how to hack it."  Of course, a certain email client that is the exact 
>opposite of OPEN is _the_ all-time favorite hacker target.  We all know the 
>true status - that vulnerabilities get fixed much faster when there are 
>many thousands of damn bright people who can check the sources.  But facts, 
>in a case like this, are irrelevant!
>
>>On the hand, Red hat sells Linux. Fine. What people fail to realize is that
>>Red Hat Linux (Or Mandrake Linux) can be use in conjnction with Windows on
>>the same operating system.
>>There is a program called "Linux for Windows" that allows Linux to take
>>advantage of resources under a Windows based machine. In fact, I'm going to
>>put it on my Windows based machine just as soon as I get done here.
>
>Personally, I'd rather build the foundation on either Linux or 
>GNU/HURD.  Then, I guess, WINE.  You need to trust your foundation.
>
>>Bye.
>>Robert
>>
>>
>>
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