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From: MarketLogix <mlx AT mlx DOT com>
Date: Fri,  1 Jun 2001 16:49:43 -0700
To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Subject: Re: 1.3.1: Objective-C not installed.
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Hmmm ...

Other than the fact that Cygnus/Redhat has been commenting the ObjC  
dependencies out of (their versions of) the production GNU makefiles
since I can remember (cygwin 1.6) - there really are no problems with  
building or using it.

I think Cygnus/Redhat just doesn't see enough of a "market" to bother
keeping it bundled as GNU has in the main distribution for the last
decade or so.  A talented and willing ObjC guru has not stepped forward to  
contribute the bindings, for proper demangling and such, to cygwin  
development tools like gdb.  Hence, Cygnus/Redhat has finally completely
swept it out of their distribution.  Oh well, that's progress I guess.

ObjC has been "just barely supported" within gcc pretty much since its
inception.  Its truly a "programmer's" programming language.

Nonetheless,

As of gcc 2.95.2, I can guarantee - it works just fine on BSD,
linux, Sun/Solaris, NeXT and yes, cygwin-translated win32 as well.

Viva ObjC !!!

bisk.


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Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:36:23 -0400
From: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>
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Subject: Re: 1.3.1: Objective-C not installed.
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On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 08:57:44AM +0100, David Starks-Browning wrote:
>On Friday 18 May 01, Christopher Faylor writes:
>> >What can I do to get Objective-C for my installation of Cygwin?
>>
>> You have to build one yourself.  I don't distribute it with gcc 2.95.3 and
>> have no plans on doing so.
>
>I don't know what the Objective-C compiler is or why people think it
>should be part of Cygwin's gcc-2.95, but I've seen this question come
>up a few times recently.  Should I add it to the FAQ?

Yes, please.

The basic reason it is not included is that I had problems building it
at one point.  I also think that when it was built there were problems
with it.  Objective C is just barely supported in the main distribution,
AFAICT.

cgf

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