Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com From: joetesta AT hushmail DOT com Message-Id: <200105220130.SAA08611@user7.hushmail.com> Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Hushpart_boundary_DnzotEOtgtkFOoxMxNnQGZiKiBFQzTAu" Subject: Re: The security of OpenSSH with cygwin. Mime-version: 1.0 To: cygwin AT cygwin DOT com, bugtraq AT securityfocus DOT com Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:05:09 -0800 (PDT) --Hushpart_boundary_DnzotEOtgtkFOoxMxNnQGZiKiBFQzTAu Content-type: text/plain ----- Begin Hush Signed Message from joetesta AT hushmail DOT com ----- Christopher Faylor wrote: > > On Tue, May 22, 2001 at 09:35:22AM +1000, Robert Collins wrote: > > >I know of at least one showstopper: It's currently possible for any > >cygwin process to get a win32 handle with full access rights to any > >other cygwin process. See the archives of the developer list for more > >detail. (search on daemon - Egor has proposed a daemon to resolve the > >issue). > > Right. I cannot emphasize strongly enough that Cygwin is NOT A SECURE > ENVIRONMENT. Do NOT trust it with sensitive data. It is trivially > easy to hack. > > cgf My Windows programming days ended awhile ago, so pardon me if this is incorrect or doesn't make sense. Under Windows 9x and Millenium, there is no (respectable) security model, so if someone was in the position to get one cygwin process to read and write to another, wouldn't they already be in the position to do something easier, like... run a keylogger to capture the password? It seems to me that in these operating systems, cygwin's process insecurity is a moot issue. Now this brings me to another question: what does this mean in Windows NT/2000? I have no experience with these operating systems, but here's what I dare to assume: the security model would disallow this inter-process mingling. Are there any other issues, proven or otherwise, that anyone is aware of? - Joe Testa e-mail: joetesta AT hushmail DOT com web page: http://hogs.rit.edu/~joet AIM: LordSpankatron ----- Begin Hush Signature v1.3 ----- Arhwe8gl3dMPHEYOtaesUcOnUXk8wFpF38XU3UHecptMarOrzoYF33sjiklWUT+uaDSh 00495B3UnrUxfsULXYoNSn0lfZsj85It3xA3vuE4c60Y+Kb96NoeCf5IF7q54expsyan 5mltk6CIaP3M2dTHkCEon3zYeX2iq4yPoa2CRQBhAdaoJ47t5Bym78pchhhbrTOT16Aw 1NpMzB1TOIW4S3rSZaz4ZHLloTpwgcGIgjDTBEbpYWbgjrAOPXU3c2YqqLa2p8vxnGjN o8dNEdlW2A0JSePV8+dB2Vy8Uc5bPF/AXTPt9S8j/bUMqNC/Rj03Fz3kHKEYQyIEsYBF lh9isz8j1qy1peQWZcq35qOiceQQi5b7SRzS8m1ipf5QwysKzfo5yPf+EpCN/DCjiHc6 DLxrErSI6BO1cLyP4o9uRd4vIRgMVMbC8dTH/IOJyI5pooX5qDgDx6BGwxuxunPz2Weu Pfz3HZvHdkruExb91CfmEMIGydPU28bzr5VvSORsbqB5 ----- End Hush Signature v1.3 ----- This message has been signed with a Hush Digital Signature. To verify the signature, please go to www.hush.com/tools Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --Hushpart_boundary_DnzotEOtgtkFOoxMxNnQGZiKiBFQzTAu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Check out: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple --Hushpart_boundary_DnzotEOtgtkFOoxMxNnQGZiKiBFQzTAu--