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From: "Stephen C. Biggs" <s_c_biggs AT bigfoot DOT com>
To: Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com>, cygwin AT cygwin DOT com
Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 11:02:30 -0800
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Subject: Re: volunteers gratefully accepted
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References: <20001221170558 DOT 89653 DOT qmail AT web9612 DOT mail DOT yahoo DOT com>; from jreidthompson AT yahoo DOT com on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:05:58AM -0800
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I am a systems programmer of >25 years experience... I am very 
hot on the idea of Cygwin, so I am already doing some things such 
as porting already written applications (BIND, RPM, etc...)  I am still 
waiting for my "porters" directory on franken.de which hasn't either 
been granted or denied.

Contact me privately and let me know what the priorities are...  In 
this instance, I would need "marching orders" because I don't want 
to be in conflict with what is already in place...

On 25 Dec 2000, at 22:31, Christopher Faylor wrote:

> I appreciate everyone who has contacted me after this email but I was
> kind of hoping that people would peruse the project and try to figure
> out where they could make a difference.
> 
> If you are a C programmer, then maybe you might want to think about
> becoming a package maintainer or augmenting some of the cygwin
> utilties.
> 
> If you understand web stuff then look at the web pages and think about
> how you'd like to contribute.
> 
> If you are a documentation expert then maybe the cygwin docs will
> entice you.
> 
> I'd rather avoid being a manager as much as I can.  I already do that
> in my real job and I'd rather not have to spend time giving people
> assignments externally, too.  I'd rather have self-motivated
> volunteers.
> 
> An excellent example of this is David Starks-Browning.  I asked for
> volunteers, he stepped up and said "I'd like to do the FAQ" and he's
> been doing an excellent job ever since.
> 
> That's what I'm looking for.
> 
> I have no objections to someone who is looking to volunteer asking the
> rest of the list for ideas, given their skill set.  Maybe I'll even
> join in with ideas.  I just don't want to be giving marching orders if
> I can help it.
> 
> cgf
> 
> On Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 09:05:58AM -0800, Reid Thompson wrote:
> >I would be willing to spend some free time trying to help.
> >Unfortunately, I have little experience coding at the OS level.  Most
> >of my work has been business level applications.  90%+ in C.  If
> >there is a portion of a project that you feel that I may be of help
> >on let me know.
> >
> >reid
> >
> >--- Christopher Faylor <cgf AT redhat DOT com> wrote:
> >>From time to time I do a google search for "cygwin" to see what kind
> >>of links are out there referring to the project.
> >>
> >>I'm always somewhat shocked by the number of pages which reference
> >>cygwin.  I'm almost equally shocked to see that some of the pages
> >>are actually maintained by frequent posters here.
> >>
> >>Given the number of times that we've asked for volunteers, I wonder
> >>if we've made it clear that we'll accept volunteers for any part of
> >>the project.
> >>
> >>For instance, if you are a whiz in web design, we'll gladly accept
> >>input on the web pages.
> >>
> >>If you are a world class author, we'd love to put you to work on the
> >>documentation.
> >>
> >>If you think that you can explain things better than the FAQ or that
> >>there deserves to be more focused explanations given on some topics,
> >>we can easily give you access to our web pages to collaborate with
> >>the current FAQ, documentation, and web people.
> >>
> >>I guess what I'm saying is that I certainly understand the desire to
> >>put your name up in lights on your own web page.  And, it is
> >>gratifying for me to see links to cygwin all over the place.  But,
> >>I'd like people to consider possibly also donating their time and
> >>skill to the project itself.
> >>
> >>It won't be as glamorous.  It won't be as easy.  You won't be able
> >>to say *anything* that you want or make any changes that you want. 
> >>I, and other people, will probably have opinions on what you do and
> >>will occasionally veto stuff or suggest changes.
> >>
> >>But, if you do contribute, your work will benefit a lot of people;
> >>arguably more than will benefit from your personal web page.  And, I
> >>pledge that I'll add your name to the "Who are we" part of the
> >>Cygwin web page.
> >>
> >>If the idea of contributing directly to the cygwin project still
> >>doesn't thrill you, then at least consider adding your web page to
> >>the "post new news" section of http://cygwin.com/ so that we can
> >>start adding links to helpful sites.
> >>
> >>Anyway, don't get me wrong.  I appreciate any work that anyone does
> >>towards helping this project.  However, I hope that people will
> >>consider the somewhat thankless task of working directly towards
> >>improving the project itself by working on some of the parts of its
> >>infrastructure whether that is the web page, the source code, or the
> >>documentation.
> >>
> >>Christopher Faylor
> >>Cygwin Engineering Manager
> 
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