Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:49:13 -0500 From: Christopher Faylor To: Cygwin Mailing List Subject: Re: test report on ver 1.1.5-4 Message-ID: <20001104144913.D13650@redhat.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Mail-Followup-To: Cygwin Mailing List References: <3A0436CD DOT B8B6B7D6 AT redhat DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.6i In-Reply-To: ; from stefan@lkcc.org on Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:14:05PM +0100 On Sat, Nov 04, 2000 at 08:14:05PM +0100, stefan wrote: >I forgot: All this contribution/assign thingies are far to complicated >for me as a programmer. It makes it unnecessarily delay. As I >concluded from what i read RedHat is the owner of the cygwin1.dll ? So >why is there a "net community" helping so much ??? I don't understand the question. Are you using Cygwin? Are you benefitting from it? Why wouldn't you want to help out on a free software project regardless of who owns the code? Just about all of the code distributed under the GPL is owned by someone. I don't enjoy having to jump through legal hoops getting people to sign over their changes to the DLL but it is a necessary evil. This does mean that you can't just take code owned by someone else (the FSF owns glibc) and plonk it into cygwin. You couldn't go in the other direction either. If that were possible, we certainly would have grabbed a lot of code from glibc by now. Just so it is clear -- Red Hat actually does sell Cygwin occasionally. We provide "buy out" licenses to customers that allow the customer to provide software that they've written to use the Cygwin DLL without "infecting" their code with the GPL. So, if you would like to be offended by the fact that Red Hat owns Cygwin, your next step is to be outraged that your efforts could actually be sold to customers. Your only cold consolation would be that if you make a positive change to Cygwin, your changes will be appreciated by many thousands of people who never paid a dime for it and any improvements that are made to Cygwin that result in an actual sale is another reason for Red Hat to continue funding the development. Because, of course, you are all benefitting from Red Hat's funding of development. Despite the fact that much of what DJ, Corinna, and I do in this mailing list and for the net community (do you think that Red Hat needs a setup.exe which downloads from the internet?) is on a volunteer basis, I doubt that you would see continued steady development if all of us were whisked to other projects. Oops. It's already happened to DJ. I expect that his new gcc duties will leave him much less time to work on setup.exe. So, there, we certainly could use net volunteers. cgf -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com