Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20001024204212.00d02b90@pop.bresnanlink.net> X-Sender: cabbey AT pop DOT bresnanlink DOT net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:26:05 -0500 To: cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com From: Chris Abbey Subject: Re: non latin file names? In-Reply-To: <20001024212112.F1027@redhat.com> References: <4 DOT 3 DOT 2 DOT 7 DOT 0 DOT 20001024200555 DOT 00d015a0 AT pop DOT bresnanlink DOT net> <000c01c03d82$ce879a10$21c9ca95 AT mow DOT siemens DOT ru> <4 DOT 3 DOT 2 DOT 7 DOT 0 DOT 20001023204853 DOT 00cfe100 AT pop DOT bresnanlink DOT net> <000c01c03d82$ce879a10$21c9ca95 AT mow DOT siemens DOT ru> <20001024110637 DOT A26191 AT redhat DOT com> <4 DOT 3 DOT 2 DOT 7 DOT 0 DOT 20001024200555 DOT 00d015a0 AT pop DOT bresnanlink DOT net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit At 21:21 10/24/00 -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote: >I don't understand this. Adding support for non-US character sets >to cygwin and newlib is a programming project. It requires someone >who understands about this stuff but there should be a lot of you >out there. ugh, I did it again... read it one way, assumed the writer meant it the way I read it and replied in that direction.... I thought you were saying that we, the ascii speaking community, wouldn't have a problem if .... oi... never mind the original joke as I read it wasn't that funny anyway. :} >I'm not going to do it because I have no experience in doing it >and little interest in learning how to do it. interest in i18n/l17n aren't really needed... that code, at least the conversion tables that are iconv/gconv are there... what's needed is to make them available to programs in cygwin (jikes could make use of it today, hence my interest) then as the general i18n/l17n work takes place in the GNU World (groan, bad pun) it can be readily absorbed by cygwin (ie. to tie this back to the start of the thread, ls will someday learn how to display ó in the general gnu-fileutils; when it does, cygwin will be ready. That second part btw is a massive effort, and one that a handfull of big companies (IBM) are looking at very hard.) >I would certainly be interested in seeing cygwin and newlib improve, >though. > >This project seems to attract large numbers of consumers but only >a miniscule number of producers. That's the basic problem. I've yet to see an open source project, *any* open source project, even those intended for developers (gcc, jikes) that this has NOT been a problem. I fear it will be the basic problem for Open Source in general. now the forces of openness have a powerful and unexpected new ally http://ibm.com/linux/ -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com