Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com From: Chris Faylor Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2000 19:36:16 -0400 To: cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Cc: hsrodgers AT UCLAlumni DOT net Subject: Re: Other languages - secondarily Message-ID: <20000716193616.C24611@cygnus.com> Reply-To: cygwin AT sources DOT redhat DOT com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com, hsrodgers AT UCLAlumni DOT net References: <4 DOT 2 DOT 2 DOT 20000716120756 DOT 00a26440 AT mail DOT earthlink DOT net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000716120756.00a26440@mail.earthlink.net>; from hsrodgers@UCLAlumni.net on Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 12:09:20PM -0700 On Sun, Jul 16, 2000 at 12:09:20PM -0700, hsrodgers AT UCLAlumni DOT net wrote: > I'm tired of having Windoze mess up and am about ready to give Linux >a try. But first I need to know if there is a way for me to type in other >languages (mainly Romance languages) besides English - without having to >mess up my keyboard layout. I can do that with WordPerfect (DOS) version >5.1+. So I'm looking for a way to do the same in Windows 98 and/or >Linux.. Here is my plea: > Foreign language keyboard layouts are fine - in the countries that need >them. But they are next to worthless for us here in the U.S. when we need >to write in another language, secondarily - too many keys are changed - not >even @ for e-mail anywhere on the keyboard. > The Spanish key layout is close to ours, would serve very well for writing >French too - but it's enough different from ours to be of practical value. > What is needed is for a good programmer to set up a key arrangement that >is the same as ours but that can produce the diacritical symbols other >languages require - by means of "dead" keys. Dead keys, the two keys at >the right of the P, the bracket keys, can serve very well for that function >as they don't normally get much action. Keyb Sp in the old PC/MS-DOS days >made use of them to supply acute, grave, dieresis, and circumflex symbols - >easily and quickly. There is no reason why they couldn't be made to do the >same for us in the U.S. now - and also supply the tilde for ñ, the upside >down ¿ and ¡ Spanish needs as well as ç for French and Portuguese, and the >European «quotes» for all those languages that use them. All without >messing up our key arrangement - everything printed on the keytop would >produce exactly that when struck . (The bracket keys would just have be to >struck twice). > Some languages might require an additional key to work as a dead key, but >even Turkish with their I and i with and without dots, their G and S, >with diacritics added, can be arranged via the same bracket keys. > I've done it - via WordPerfect's .WPK and macros. But it only works in WP >Dos versions 5.x. I can type in French, German, Italian, Spanish, and >Turkish without aborting my normal typing rhythm and darn near as fast as >in English, thanks to the dead-key operation, which involves sequential >keystrokes instead of having to press two or three keys at the same time, >to say nothing of trying to use a foreign key layout. > But I'm not a programmer, and it would take a good one to create the same >sort of keyboard arrangement for Windows, DOS, OS/2, or Linux, or . . . . > Any ideas? Does this have something to do with Cygwin? I don't really see how it does. Why not check out exactly what is available for Linux and, then, send similar email to a Linux mailing list? cgf -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com