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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:50:32 -0500
To: "cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com" <cygwin AT hotpop DOT com>
From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" <lhall AT rfk DOT com>
Subject: Unsubscribe/subscribe messages to the list
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I know it cyclic and the current rash will soon die down again but I feel 
its time to point out the obvious about the perennial problem of people  sending mail to the list attempting to unsubscribe.  There are only
two ways that one can unsubscribe from the list:

   1. Do it yourself by sending to the LIST SERVER.  The list server 
      address for unsubscribing from the cygwin list is 
      cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com.  For those that can't remember
      this address, check out the bottom of every message that you receive 
      from the list.  You'll see these lines:

            Want to unsubscribe from this list?
            Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com

   2. If, for some unforeseen reason, performing the action described in (1)
      doesn't work, send email to cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com and ask
      nicely for help.  This is the one other person that should be able to 
      help you with your difficulties.  NO ONE else on the list is able to
      do so.  Cluttering the list with pleas (or epithets) will not help you
      (or gain you sympathy).  

Please don't use (2) unless (1) has clearly failed for you and you've made
every effort to make sure that you're unsubscribing from the same email 
address as you subscribed (i.e. make sure you're not trying to unsubscribe 
from an address that you've forwarded the list mail to from some other 
address of yours).  cygwin-owner is a busy member of this community.  
Responding to pleas for help unsubscribing should be limited to those who
have tried their best to unsubscribe and yet have not succeeded.  This should
be the rare case.

On a related note, requests to begin a subscription should also go to the 
list server, not the list itself.  The various lists available and a form to 
subscribe you can be found at:

    http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html

Please don't clutter the actual list and don't bother cygwin-owner with 
subscription requests.  Everyone is empowered to do their own subscribing
through this mechanism.  It works, as the thousands of members of these
lists can attest.  If you're experiencing trouble, check out issues on 
your end.  Other than rare temporary technical problems on the server 
side that may cause some outages, there's little reason to believe the 
list server can't subscribe you.

Hopefully this information helps those looking for subscribe/unsubscribe 
help as well as those on the list already who receive these random requests.

  
Larry Hall                              lhall AT rfk DOT com
RFK Partners, Inc.                      http://www.rfk.com
118 Washington Street                   (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office
Holliston, MA 01746                     (508) 893-9889 - FAX
                                        (508) 560-1285 - cell phone


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