Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20000516102346.00bc8e70@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: lhall AT pop DOT ma DOT ultranet DOT com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 10:50:32 -0500 To: "cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com" From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" Subject: Unsubscribe/subscribe messages to the list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I know it cyclic and the current rash will soon die down again but I feel its time to point out the obvious about the perennial problem of people sending mail to the list attempting to unsubscribe. There are only two ways that one can unsubscribe from the list: 1. Do it yourself by sending to the LIST SERVER. The list server address for unsubscribing from the cygwin list is cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com. For those that can't remember this address, check out the bottom of every message that you receive from the list. You'll see these lines: Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com 2. If, for some unforeseen reason, performing the action described in (1) doesn't work, send email to cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com and ask nicely for help. This is the one other person that should be able to help you with your difficulties. NO ONE else on the list is able to do so. Cluttering the list with pleas (or epithets) will not help you (or gain you sympathy). Please don't use (2) unless (1) has clearly failed for you and you've made every effort to make sure that you're unsubscribing from the same email address as you subscribed (i.e. make sure you're not trying to unsubscribe from an address that you've forwarded the list mail to from some other address of yours). cygwin-owner is a busy member of this community. Responding to pleas for help unsubscribing should be limited to those who have tried their best to unsubscribe and yet have not succeeded. This should be the rare case. On a related note, requests to begin a subscription should also go to the list server, not the list itself. The various lists available and a form to subscribe you can be found at: http://sourceware.cygnus.com/cygwin/lists.html Please don't clutter the actual list and don't bother cygwin-owner with subscription requests. Everyone is empowered to do their own subscribing through this mechanism. It works, as the thousands of members of these lists can attest. If you're experiencing trouble, check out issues on your end. Other than rare temporary technical problems on the server side that may cause some outages, there's little reason to believe the list server can't subscribe you. Hopefully this information helps those looking for subscribe/unsubscribe help as well as those on the list already who receive these random requests. Larry Hall lhall AT rfk DOT com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 118 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX (508) 560-1285 - cell phone -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com