Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com From: "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" To: "Kendall Bennett" , Subject: RE: Lack of Cygwin contributors? Was: How is textmode/binmode determined ... Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <200005011535376.SM00160@KENDALLB> > > Since you're reading the Cygwin mailing list, I assume that you > > are using the product. That means that you're benefitting from the > > work that Cygnus/Red Hat has put into the product. That's fine. > > Actually no, I am not using the product at all. I have tried a couple of > times to get it working simply so that I could try building the > XFree86/Cgywin stuff, but never managed to get a stable net > release working > for me. Since this project has now moved to using commercial compilers, I > have no real immediate need for Cygwin anymore. > Kendall, I had been watching this thread. Let me comment only this part. Cygwin/XFree compilation does require some prior experience with Cygwin environment. It is a new environment for you therefore a learning curve is expected. I remember a couple of years ago when I first tried to compile a simple project with Cygwin, I was frustrated and was about to throw away Cygwin. Cygwin does help a lot. I can take my favorite of UNIX applications and compile them under Cygwin. In brief, I use it as a tool for my productivity. Speaking of other project, which is http://win32-xfree.sourceforge.net of which you, John and I are founders. Targets MingW32 for two reasons, prviding MSVC support because MSVC support in X11 was written for ancient compilers and is completely broken, second there is a big demand for X development tools, beside X-server, for MingW32. However please note Win32-xfree project would not be able to address some of the issues Cygwin/XFree does. For example porting LBX to MSVC is a nightmare therefore lbproxy cannot be compiled using MSVC. Now a days we live Internet with Firewalls, and Firewalls drop all the unkown packets. To make Win32-xfree (MSVC/MingW32) it will be a big challenge to port LBX and compile lbproxy. The purpose of Cygwin/XFree project is to provide X11 development tools to Cygwin developers and also an X-server. Suhaib -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Send a message to cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com