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From: "Kevin Wright" <kwright AT aspectdv DOT com>
To: <cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
Subject: RE: Backspace prob with vim under rxvt - solution - fixdel
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 12:01:33 -0700
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Ok, maybe I can put this one to rest. After doing some more
searching through vim's online help, I came across a setting
called fixdel.  Partial output from help fixdel:

  If your delete key terminal code is wrong, but the
  code for backspace is alright, you can put this in
  your .vimrc:
          :fixdel
  This works no matter what the actual code for
  backspace is.

This basically works except that it only works in command-mode,
not in insert mode. It also works in ex mode, which is a big
help. This is something I can live with. Thanks to Bram Moolenaar
for putting in online help. It's one of the *many* reasons I
use vim. And thanks to Chuck and John for offering assistance.

--Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
[mailto:cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com]On Behalf Of Kevin Wright
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 11:26 AM
To: cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
Subject: RE: Backspace prob with vim under rxvt


Chuck, John, etc.

I have some more import information that may pinpoint the real
culprit. After some more testing, the backspace problem in vim
under rxvt (or wterm) occurs under my build of WindowMaker 0.60
as well as twm (from the X11 build by Suhaib) or if I bring up
the rxvt without any window manager.

If I use mwm (care of Suhaib's lesstif's build) the problem
doesn't occur. What's different about mwm, I have no idea.

Here's some more info:

STTY SETTING:
~ > stty -a
speed 38400 baud; rows 25; columns 80; line = 56;
intr = ^C; quit = ^\; erase = ^H; kill = ^U; eof = ^D; eol = M-^?; eol2 =
M-^?;
start = ^Q; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; rprnt = ^R; werase = ^W; lnext = ^V;
flush = ^O; min = 1; time = 0;
-parenb -parodd cs8 -hupcl -cstopb cread -clocal -crtscts
-ignbrk brkint ignpar -parmrk -inpck -istrip -inlcr -igncr icrnl ixon -ixoff
-iuclc -ixany imaxbel
opost -olcuc -ocrnl onlcr -onocr -onlret -ofill -ofdel nl0 cr0 tab0 bs0 vt0
ff0
isig icanon iexten echo echoe echok -echonl -noflsh -tostop echoctl echoke

VIMRC:
The problem occurs regardless of whether I have a .vimrc or not.

INPUTRC:
The problem occurs regardless of whether I have a .inputrc or not.

There must be some single point of failure. By the way, I use Exceed 6.1
as my X-server.

Thanks for all the help so far.

--Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: Charles S. Wilson [mailto:cwilson AT ece DOT gatech DOT edu]
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2000 9:55 AM
To: John A. Turner
Cc: Kevin Wright; cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
Subject: Re: Backspace prob with vim under rxvt


"John A. Turner" wrote:

> >   I don't see this behavior. What are your stty settings, CYGWIN
> > variable settings, .inputrc contents, and .vimrc contents?
>
> what do you recommend for those?

my .inputrc contains a single line: "set bell-style none"

my stty settings are the default ( I run no explicit command in any dot
files to set them ) but stty reports:
speed 38400 baud; line = -96;
eol = M-^?; eol2 = M-^?;

CYGWIN=tty ntea nontsec binmode

My .vimrc is huge. 'nuff said.

My point was not that everyone should copy my settings, but that there
may have been some obvious thing in Kevin's settings that was messing
things up; e.g. 'stty erase ^h" or something similar but wrong. To tell
you the truth, I can't seem to get backspace to *not* work in vim, even
after messing up the CYGWIN and stty settings...go figure.

>
> anyway, when I use your build, with your libX11.dll, it keeps failing
> with:
>
> _X11TransSocketINETConnect: Can't connect: errno = 111
>
My build is a true X11 app, and therefore requires an Xserver running on
your computer.

--Chuck


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