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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 21:17:57 -0400
From: "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" <sssiddiqi AT ipass DOT net>
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To: "Kevin L. McWhirter" <klmcw AT earthlink DOT net>
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Subject: Re: X11 for cygwin B20.1 ???
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Have you tried getting X11R6.4 from my URL?
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Forum/6298
and LessTif binaries for Cygwin? I provide
LessTif precompiled binaries via LessTif.org (http://www.lesstif.org).
Install all the X11 and lessTif in /usr/X11R6

get the gvim UNIX code from
ftp://ftp.home.vim.org/pub/vim/unix/
You will need

gvim-5.5-rt.tar.gz and vim-5.5-src.tar.gz (I think so).

Then use

./configure --with-x --x-includes=/usr/X11R6/include
--x-libraries=/usr/X11R6/lib --disable-gtk
--with-motif-lib=/usr/X11R6/lib

If you have Perl for Cygwin installed then you can
add --enable-perlinterp 

I have not compiled gvim under Cygwin, yet.  The gvim code is
very much system independent, therefore I assume it should
compile with very little efforts.


"Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> 
> Hi! Thank for the reply.
> 
> However...
> 
>  I have also been using gvim win32 for a couple of revisions (recently upgraded to
> 5.4).  What I want is a gvim compiled with the cygwin B20.1 libs so that it will
> work with Perforce's p4 command (also compiled with cygwin B20.1).
> 
> When I issue a 'p4 resolve' (to resolve merge conflicts) I am presented with an
> oppurtunity to edit the merged source.  p4 will then operate on that edit
> (checking the editted version into the repository for instance).  The native gvim
> does not understand the file path that p4 passes it.
> 
> I did find some one who had ported an earlier version of gvim using the UNIX/X11
> sources.  That is why I started pursuing installing X11.  I was contemplating
> reworking the port for vim 5.4
> 
> I do not agree with you about VNC however.  They provide there own X server
> (Xvnc).  This X server is meant to be used with vncserver and vncclient but is an
> honest to God X server (unlike MI/X). I have used it quite successfully under
> Linux! It seems to be based on X11 sources (make World to build).
> 
> Thanks for your input on the X11R6.3/X11R6.4 differences.  I guess either one will
> suit my needs.
> 
> Thanks again for the reply!
> Kevin
> 
> "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" wrote:
> 
> > To get gvim compiled on Windows, you are going a long way.  All you need
> > to do, go to http://www.vim.org and download
> > the Windows native (win32/with OLE) GVIM.  I use it all the time and it
> > is SIMPLY perfect.  You can even cut and paste
> > (crtl+c, crtl+v) plus all the other Windows keyboard short-cuts.  It
> > even has the ability to recognize C/C++ syntex and highlight the code
> > with various colors.
> >
> > The differences between X11R6.3 and X11R6.4 are usually minor for most
> > users.  X11R6.3 (aka Broadway) allows to open
> > X apps in a web browser.  X11R6.4 enghnaces various netwrok capabilities
> > and polished the Broadway technology.  However one need to port
> > X-swallow to Cygwin (or Win32) to open
> > X applications on Win32 Web-browser.
> >
> > X11R6.4 is backward compatible, that means applications linked to
> > X11R6.3 librqaries should work with X11R6.4.
> >
> > Vnc is not an X-server.  It can be an alternative to X-server but only
> > with limited capabilities. VNC has its own server and a viewer.  You can
> > run an application on a system where VNC is installed and view it
> > remotely using VNC viewer.  I do not think VNC can be a replacement for
> > an X-server.
> >
> > Suhaib
> >
> > "Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> > >
> > > To be honest I do not recall all of the brick walls I encountered while
> > > trying to get this going this weekend.
> > >
> > > I messed with MI/X a year or so ago and realized then that it was useless.
> > > I would like to get Xvnc working as a cheap X server.  That compile died a
> > > violent death as the patch available is a version or so behind the oldest
> > > available version of vnc.
> > >
> > > I was hoping that there was a doc somewhere to get me started.  I really do
> > > not want to spend weeks trying to re-port already ported software every step
> > > of the way.
> > >
> > > After all .... all I really want is a version of gvim that will work with
> > > Perforce!  That's what started all of this.  After failing to find one that
> > > was compiled for WIN32 native (read non-X) and failing to get it to compile
> > > (after 3 hours of trying) quickly,  I decided I needed to get my environment
> > > a little more in line with what seems to be the *norm* [I hate that word].
> > > It seems that this means (among other things) gcc-2.95,  B20.1,  and X11R6.4
> > > (or X11R6.3 not sure which is the better choice yet),  and binary moint
> > > points (I have been using text for about a year now).
> > >
> > > If you could put a web page outline the basic things to get and where they
> > > are and a rough set of steps to follow I would be grateful!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the reply.
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > > "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Right now there is no HOWTO or FAQ for X11.
> > > > I will put Web pages for Cygwin-Xfree which will have a
> > > > HOWTO and FAQ for X11R6, XFree86 porting issues and
> > > > other stuff related to X under Cygwin.
> > > > For general info on X you may check http://www.rahul.net/kenton.
> > > >
> > > > What are exactly your questions?  Obviously B19 stuff is for Cygwin
> > > > B19.  Which apps require which stuff, please elaborate?
> > > >
> > > > At the moment all the X11 clients and libraries require an X11R6.x
> > > > compliant X-server.  Many Cygwin users
> > > > attempt to use MI/X because it was a freeware (now it costs
> > > > $25.00).  MI/X cannot do multi-windowing and is X11R5
> > > > based therefore most modern apps under MI/X will crash.  Beside, it is a
> > > > very simple server with only stdin/stdout capbility.  Most X
> > > > applications need more then
> > > > a stdin/stdout crap.  Therefore attempts to do some serious work with
> > > > MI/X would be a waste of time.
> > > >
> > > > Suhaib
> > > >
> > > > PS: to discourage UCE, the return address is invalid, post your reply
> > > > only to list please.
> > > >
> > > > "Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does there exist a HOWTO or FAQ for X11 for cygwin B20.1 ?
> > > > >
> > > > > There seems to be a plethora of options but not one easily found
> > > > > solution.  Some distributions require B19,  other apps require other
> > > > > stuff, etc.....
> > > > >
> > > > > 'preciate the pointer.
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
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> > > > "Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Does there exist a HOWTO or FAQ for X11 for cygwin B20.1 ?
> > > > >
> > > > > There seems to be a plethora of options but not one easily found
> > > > > solution.  Some distributions require B19,  other apps require other
> > > > > stuff, etc.....
> > > > >
> > > > > 'preciate the pointer.
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
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