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Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 20:26:25 -0400
From: "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" <sssiddiqi AT ipass DOT net>
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To: "Kevin L. McWhirter" <klmcw AT earthlink DOT net>
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Subject: Re: X11 for cygwin B20.1 ???
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To get gvim compiled on Windows, you are going a long way.  All you need
to do, go to http://www.vim.org and download
the Windows native (win32/with OLE) GVIM.  I use it all the time and it
is SIMPLY perfect.  You can even cut and paste
(crtl+c, crtl+v) plus all the other Windows keyboard short-cuts.  It
even has the ability to recognize C/C++ syntex and highlight the code
with various colors.

The differences between X11R6.3 and X11R6.4 are usually minor for most
users.  X11R6.3 (aka Broadway) allows to open
X apps in a web browser.  X11R6.4 enghnaces various netwrok capabilities
and polished the Broadway technology.  However one need to port
X-swallow to Cygwin (or Win32) to open
X applications on Win32 Web-browser.

X11R6.4 is backward compatible, that means applications linked to
X11R6.3 librqaries should work with X11R6.4.

Vnc is not an X-server.  It can be an alternative to X-server but only
with limited capabilities. VNC has its own server and a viewer.  You can
run an application on a system where VNC is installed and view it
remotely using VNC viewer.  I do not think VNC can be a replacement for
an X-server. 

Suhaib

"Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> 
> To be honest I do not recall all of the brick walls I encountered while
> trying to get this going this weekend.
> 
> I messed with MI/X a year or so ago and realized then that it was useless.
> I would like to get Xvnc working as a cheap X server.  That compile died a
> violent death as the patch available is a version or so behind the oldest
> available version of vnc.
> 
> I was hoping that there was a doc somewhere to get me started.  I really do
> not want to spend weeks trying to re-port already ported software every step
> of the way.
> 
> After all .... all I really want is a version of gvim that will work with
> Perforce!  That's what started all of this.  After failing to find one that
> was compiled for WIN32 native (read non-X) and failing to get it to compile
> (after 3 hours of trying) quickly,  I decided I needed to get my environment
> a little more in line with what seems to be the *norm* [I hate that word].
> It seems that this means (among other things) gcc-2.95,  B20.1,  and X11R6.4
> (or X11R6.3 not sure which is the better choice yet),  and binary moint
> points (I have been using text for about a year now).
> 
> If you could put a web page outline the basic things to get and where they
> are and a rough set of steps to follow I would be grateful!
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> Kevin
> 
> "Suhaib M. Siddiqi" wrote:
> 
> > Right now there is no HOWTO or FAQ for X11.
> > I will put Web pages for Cygwin-Xfree which will have a
> > HOWTO and FAQ for X11R6, XFree86 porting issues and
> > other stuff related to X under Cygwin.
> > For general info on X you may check http://www.rahul.net/kenton.
> >
> > What are exactly your questions?  Obviously B19 stuff is for Cygwin
> > B19.  Which apps require which stuff, please elaborate?
> >
> > At the moment all the X11 clients and libraries require an X11R6.x
> > compliant X-server.  Many Cygwin users
> > attempt to use MI/X because it was a freeware (now it costs
> > $25.00).  MI/X cannot do multi-windowing and is X11R5
> > based therefore most modern apps under MI/X will crash.  Beside, it is a
> > very simple server with only stdin/stdout capbility.  Most X
> > applications need more then
> > a stdin/stdout crap.  Therefore attempts to do some serious work with
> > MI/X would be a waste of time.
> >
> > Suhaib
> >
> > PS: to discourage UCE, the return address is invalid, post your reply
> > only to list please.
> >
> > "Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> > >
> > > Does there exist a HOWTO or FAQ for X11 for cygwin B20.1 ?
> > >
> > > There seems to be a plethora of options but not one easily found
> > > solution.  Some distributions require B19,  other apps require other
> > > stuff, etc.....
> > >
> > > 'preciate the pointer.
> > > Kevin
> > >
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> > "Kevin L. McWhirter" wrote:
> > >
> > > Does there exist a HOWTO or FAQ for X11 for cygwin B20.1 ?
> > >
> > > There seems to be a plethora of options but not one easily found
> > > solution.  Some distributions require B19,  other apps require other
> > > stuff, etc.....
> > >
> > > 'preciate the pointer.
> > > Kevin
> > >
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