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From: "Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr" <midryder AT intcon DOT net>
To: "Fredrik Radesand" <radesand AT algonet DOT se>, <cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
Subject: Re: ezmlm response (fwd)
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:26:39 -0600
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Hi Fredrik.  Someone just dropped me a rather interesting email.  For some
reason, they were offended by your comment and plan on dropping you 50
anonymous messages for every one message  you bounce to the list.  Given
the mail volume of the Cygwin list, I expect you'll have a very full and
corrupt mailbox very soon.  I don't know why the individual felt so
completely upset with your tactic, but they did.  So I suggest you look a
little closer at what you plan on doing before you actually do it.

There's a lot of people here who might be tempted to do the same thing,
and given how easy it is to build an annon mailer (or even just download
one) you may find yourself in a heap of trouble, or at very minimum your
algonet.se account could end up disabled.

Personally, my ISP and I tend to keep some safeguards against that exact
situation - my mailbox can't be corrupted, and annon stuff is
auto-filtered, along with certain other things.  (Oddly enough, the
account radesand AT algonet DOT se is now unable to deliver email to my address.)
Algonet does not.

Midnight Ryder
Aka Davis Ray Sickmon, Jr

-----Original Message-----
From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand AT algonet DOT se>
To: <cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
Date: Sunday, February 14, 1999 11:43 AM
Subject: ezmlm response (fwd)


>
>Get me off this stupid list please.
>I will bounce every single message back onto this adress.
>
>The unsubscribe instructions doesn't work.
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>Date: 14 Feb 1999 17:39:47 -0000
>From: cygwin-return- AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
>To: radesand AT algonet DOT se
>Subject: ezmlm response
>
>Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com mailing list.
>
>This is a generic help message. The message I received wasn't sent to
>any of my command addresses.
>
>
>--- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>
>I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>your message to the correct command address:
>
>
>To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-subscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>   <cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>   <cygwin-info AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>   <cygwin-faq AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>   <cygwin-digest-subscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>   <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>   <cygwin-get DOT 123_145 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>   <cygwin-index DOT 123_456 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>so you'll actually get 100-499.
>
>To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>send an empty message to:
>   <cygwin-thread DOT 12345 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>
>You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>for example "john AT host DOT domain", just add a hyphen and your
>address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
><cygwin-subscribe-john=host DOT domain AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>To stop subscription for this address, mail:
><cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host DOT domain AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>
>In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>
>If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>desired results, please contact my owner at
>cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>lot slower than I am ;-)
>
>--- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>
>Return-Path: <radesand AT algonet DOT se>
>Received: (qmail 16135 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>  by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:39:46 -0000
>Received: (qmail 16719 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>  by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100
>Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:39:41 +0100 (MET)
>From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand AT algonet DOT se>
>To: cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
>Subject: Re: ezmlm response
>In-Reply-To: <919013906 DOT 15947 DOT ezmlm AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>Message-ID: <Pine DOT SOL DOT 4 DOT 10 DOT 9902141839110 DOT 3218-100000 AT kairos DOT algonet DOT se>
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>
>
>Who is the moron administration this list?
>
>On 14 Feb 1999 cygwin-help AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com wrote:
>
>> Hi! This is the ezmlm program. I'm managing the
>> cygwin AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com mailing list.
>>
>> Acknowledgment: The address
>>
>>    radesand AT algonet DOT se
>>
>> was not on the cygwin mailing list when I received
>> your request and is not a subscriber of this list.
>>
>> If you unsubscribe, but continue to receive mail, you're subscribed
>> under a different address than you currently use. Please look at the
>> header for:
>>
>> 'Return-Path: <cygwin-return-1234-user=host DOT dom AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>'
>>
>> The unsubscribe address for this user would be:
>> 'cygwin-unsubscribe-user=host DOT dom AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com'.
>> Just mail to that address, substituting user=host.dom for the real
>> values, reply to the confirmation request, and you should receive a
message
>> that you're off the list.
>>
>> For some mail programs, you need to make the headers visible to
>> see the return path:
>>
>> For Eudora 4.0, click on the "Blah blah ..." button.
>> For PMMail, click on "Window->Show entire message/header".
>>
>> If this still doesn't work, I'm sorry to say that I can't help you.
>> Please FORWARD a list message together with a note about what you're
>> trying to achieve and a list of addresses that you might be subscribed
>> under to my owner:
>>
>>     cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com
>>
>> who will take care of it. My owner is a little bit slower than I am,
>> so please be patient.
>>
>>
>> --- Administrative commands for the cygwin list ---
>>
>> I can handle administrative requests automatically. Please
>> DO NOT SEND THEM TO THE LIST ADDRESS! If you do, I will not
>> see them and other subscribers will be annoyed. Instead, send
>> your message to the correct command address:
>>
>>
>> To subscribe to the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-subscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> To remove your address from the list, send a message to:
>>    <cygwin-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> Send mail to the following for info and FAQ for this list:
>>    <cygwin-info AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>    <cygwin-faq AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> Similar addresses exist for the digest list:
>>    <cygwin-digest-subscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>    <cygwin-digest-unsubscribe AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail:
>>    <cygwin-get DOT 123_145 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> To get an index with subject and author for messages 123-456 , mail:
>>    <cygwin-index DOT 123_456 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> They are always returned as sets of 100, max 2000 per request,
>> so you'll actually get 100-499.
>>
>> To receive all messages with the same subject as message 12345,
>> send an empty message to:
>>    <cygwin-thread DOT 12345 AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> The messages do not really need to be empty, but I will ignore
>> their content. Only the ADDRESS you send to is important.
>>
>> You can start a subscription for an alternate address,
>> for example "john AT host DOT domain", just add a hyphen and your
>> address (with '=' instead of '@') after the command word:
>> <cygwin-subscribe-john=host DOT domain AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> To stop subscription for this address, mail:
>> <cygwin-unsubscribe-john=host DOT domain AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com>
>>
>> In both cases, I'll send a confirmation message to that address. When
>> you receive it, simply reply to it to complete your subscription.
>>
>> If despite following these instructions, you do not get the
>> desired results, please contact my owner at
>> cygwin-owner AT sourceware DOT cygnus DOT com. Please be patient, my owner is a
>> lot slower than I am ;-)
>>
>> --- Enclosed is a copy of the request I received.
>>
>> Return-Path: <radesand AT algonet DOT se>
>> Received: (qmail 15942 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999
17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: from angel.algonet.se (194.213.74.112)
>>   by egcs.cygnus.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 17:38:25 -0000
>> Received: (qmail 14338 invoked from network); 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12
+0100
>> Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18)
>>   by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100
>> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 18:38:12 +0100 (MET)
>> From: Fredrik Radesand <radesand AT algonet DOT se>
>> To:
cygwin-uc.919013592.ghekneglankjcdpedgpi-radesand=algonet DOT se AT sourceware DOT cy
gnus.com
>> Message-ID: <Pine DOT SOL DOT 4 DOT 10 DOT 9902141838060 DOT 3208-100000 AT kairos DOT algonet DOT se>
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
>>
>>
>>
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