From: glenn AT gs DOT fay DOT nc DOT us (Glenn Spell) Subject: Re: Problem with Win95 28 Jan 1999 07:21:37 -0800 Message-ID: <199901280931.BAA15177.cygnus.gnu-win32@shell4.ba.best.com> References: <326a31e2 DOT 36afc2fe AT aol DOT com> Reply-To: glenn AT gs DOT fay DOT nc DOT us (Glenn Spell) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: N8TM AT aol DOT com, gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com N8TM AT aol DOT com wrote: > > glenn AT gs DOT fay DOT nc DOT us writes: > > > > > If anyone has a better fix I'd love it. > > > > http://www.cygnus.com/ml/gnu-win32/1999-Jan/0484.html > > > > > I really don't want to got o win98, that would just breat > > > everything else... > > > > Absolutely. Until someone can explain to me in *detail* how > > to remove *all* remnants of Internet Explorer from Win98, I > > shall *never* *ever* downgrade from Win95B-noMSIE to Win98. > > I installed the cygwin binary snapshot which was posted Saturday. > It also solves the "vfork: no more processes" [...] Certainly the latest snapshot also solves the "vfork:" problem as my patch was derived from changes included in the snapshots. > [...] but it changes the way drives are referred to by default > from e.g. //d/ to d: I prefer not to try the current snapshots (which are B21) since registry and mount functions seem to be in a such a state of flux. For now, I'm a happy camper with B20.1. > Maybe it's better to use mounts always. I don't know. I expect mounts will be required for full functionality at some point in the future. > It doesn't solve the problems with silent errors in running patch, > which I usually do across drives. I have not experienced any problems with patch. I use all text mounts. Patch sometimes reports "ignoring trailing garbage" but that doesn't seem to create any problems. I did have to make some changes to Mumit's patches for egcs-1.1.1 but he clearly warned not to use WinZip, which I did use, and not to use text mounts, which I did and do use... and will continue to use. :-) I attribute these problems to text mounts and not to patch, per se. I'm hoping that text mounts will be better integrated into Cygwin sometime in the future. (Yes, I know that's a complex issue but Cygwin itself is complex and I have faith in those who toil to develope this fine tool.) I suggest the use of a dos-to-unix utility that not only deals with the line endings but also deals with the control-Z issue. > I found also that bash negotiates sh loops in Makefiles better than > ash, both on NT and W95. I've experienced no problems with ash (except the vfork-thing) and ash is a lot faster than bash. In fact, I have ash installed as both /bin/sh and /bin/bash on Win95. (Bash is /usr/bin/bash.) I did update ash from cygwin-debian-0.3.4-2 to cygwin-debian-0.3.4-6 but I don't think that made any difference... it was only part of my search for a work-around to the vfork-thing. Maybe ash runs better on B20.1 than on the latest snapshots. > Now I'm experimenting to see whether using -pipe consistently makes > any difference. I intended to do the same but I ran out of time to put into Cygwin. Please keep us posted on any results. > Is there any evidence that W98 would work better than W95, [...] Circumstantial. Everything I've read states that W98 is more stable. > other than presumably not requiring the multiple steps to > re-install with USB after it gets trashed? My personal experience is that getting rid of IE4 gets rid of the trashing. Plain and simple... no IE4, no re-installs. The file included in the latest USB patch that solves some problems is vmm.vxd (AFAIK), the DOS386 VMM Kernel. I've searched a friends W98 system and did not find a file named vmm.vxd. So I suspect that all that stuff is completely rewritten in W98. If anyone knows different, please correct me. > Once in a while we do run Encarta, and there's no getting away > from MSIE there, [...] Well... I'm sorry for you. :-( > but it doesn't get in the way otherwise. Oh! You mean... you love those re-installs, huh? :-) BTW, a kind soul on this list emailed me a heads-up on installing W98 without IE4. Check out http://www.98lite.net/ I am preparing to install Win98-noMSIE in order to have a more stable Cygwin. -glenn -- Glenn Spell Fayetteville, North Carolina, U. S. A. ____________________________________________________ ... blue skies ... happy trails ... sweet dreams ... - For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".