From: sarnold AT coyote DOT rain DOT org (Stephen L Arnold) Subject: Re: Help engine/file format (was CD-based distribution...) 22 Aug 1998 14:27:03 -0700 Message-ID: <199808220500.WAA22507.cygnus.gnu-win32@coyote.rain.org> References: <01J0UZU9Q33M000658 AT scottish-newcastle DOT co DOT uk> Reply-To: sarnold AT earthling DOT net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT To: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com On 21 Aug 98, Robert Cross had this to say about Re: Help engine/file format (was CD: > sarnold AT coyote DOT rain DOT org wrote: > #It would be nice if the man command came with the base distribution (or > #EGCS). Or better still, a win32 X-man type shell with a command list, > #search features,etc. > Agreed. I ain't there yet; anybody else? > #Unless you have the latest PII, K6, etc, most current browsers are > #slow (piggish), and it seems like Apache would have to be trimmed > #down quite a bit. > What about lynx? lynx is cool (see below) > #How about text files with an interface to select available help > #files and use grep to search with? It's faster than you might think, > #even on *lots* of files. It could even be configurable for multiple file > #formats (using a lynx base for the HTML part?). > How about this - > Leave the documentation in it's current multiplicity of formats. Install a > cut down version of Apache, plus lynx or similar. Write *small* (?) CGI to > run man2html et al to convert manual pages on demand. This would give the > best of both worlds, minimal manual (pun?) conversion, plus the ease of > use of HTML for the newbies, (and lazy folk like myself). The disadvantage > is that gnu-win32 would still have to be running to be able to access the > information. > > Opinions? That's what I was trying to say (although not very well :-) The file formats can be converted on the fly, but the default display mode should be configurable (ie, if you want to see text, the format stuff can be stripped easily). I kind of like plain old text because it's easy to read even if you have nothing but less to view it with. On the other hand, there are no links, nodes, etc, and searching requires an extra tool or two. So nobody's interested in the win32 grep interface? It was done by another guy, but I haven't been able to get an email in six months of trying (no bounced messages though :-/ The app is freely available (it's called ViewBar) and since the grep part is based on the GNU source, it (and the win32 GUI interface) is also GPL'd (not ViewBar, just the grep part). It's a pretty cool win95 file browser, kind of like a task bar at the top of your display, that provides browsing, access to the grep interface, and a nice text viewer/editor (you can also specify your own editor). It's too bad I don't have the source for the ViewBar part (and I can't get hold of the guy); if anyone would like to try, his info is: Donald Munro The win32 grep shell would make a great search facility for a help engine, or nice stand-alone util. If anyone wants it, let me know... Gotta go - it's pizza time! Steve ************************************************************* Steve Arnold sarnold AT earthling DOT net This message composed of 100% recycled electrons. You should also recycle yourself. Become an organ donor (8-)@ - For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".