From: dbrown AT clark DOT net (Doug Brown) Subject: Re: To use or _NOT_ to use InstallShield? 8 May 1998 09:11:47 -0700 Message-ID: <355267A8.C0D7D367.cygnus.gnu-win32@clark.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms2FCB94D2618B59825FF89F05" To: "'gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com'" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms2FCB94D2618B59825FF89F05 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think the real question is "who is the intended audience of cygwin32?" If the intended audience is experienced unix developers who are looking for a porting tool for NT/95, then a .tgz distribution is sufficient. On the other hand, if the intended audience is NT/95 developers/users who are looking for a free compiler/development alternative to msvc5.0 et al, or who are looking for an introduction into the unix/gnu development environment w/o installing Linux/FreeBSD, then installshield is the way to go. Such people expect an installation package like installshield. They would not know what to do with a tarball, nor would they have the tools on hand to work with one, even if they did understand what to do with it. Reviewing the gnu-win32 mail list and the faq, it seems there are several people in both camps. Therefore, I have a few recommendations: 1) Clarify in the documentation which audience is targeted. 2) Tailor the installation method for the intended audience 3) If you truly intend to target both audiences, then provide installation mechanisms for both. BTW, I've been a silent user of cygwin32 for about a year, and a lurker in the mail list for the last few months. I'd like to publicly commend the people responsible for Cygwin32. I've used it extensively and had only minor problems that were easily corrected. 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