From: lhall AT rfk DOT com (Larry Hall RFK Partners Inc) Subject: Re: I'm new 9 Mar 1998 18:40:52 -0800 Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980309153944.00a718f0.cygnus.gnu-win32@pop.ma.ultranet.com> References: <002601bd4b65$98931cc0$92e0a1cd AT master-chen> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "Patrick Burrows" , At 08:13 AM 3/9/98 -0600, Patrick Burrows wrote: > >I too am new, and was very confused when, thinking I downloaded a c >compiler, I downloaded some sort of unix shell. > >I downloaded the compiler because I want to learn C (been using VB for too >long). I am not very familiar with Unix (though I do not mind learning). And >while, yes, I know about the doc files at cygnus, I haven't read them >because the preamble says it does not really apply to Win32 yet. > >So my question is, what is a good book, or online source, where I can learn >the *basics* of Bash ( I only want to know enough so I can compile and run a >program). Apparently Bash does not support any of the unix commands I know: >ls, cd, etc...). I'm not sure what you mean by this. There are versions of all of these utilities included in the cdk. These certainly work fine with bash (from the cdk). These utilities from another source may have issues with the Cygnus version of bash, although I can't begin to wonder what those issues would be... >BTW--I *did* look at the archives for this list, but, unfortunately, it is >not searchable. I apologize for this post, because I realize the list must >get one of these everytime someone like me downloads the program, but I >could not find a similar post in the archives. Yes, it is true that searching the mail archives is not an obvious option. Earnie Boyd has suggested the use of two engines for just this task. They are: http://www.findmail.com http://www.search.com Check'em out. I've used the first a couple of times and gotten at least some reasonable feedback. So far, I've had no reason to think that these won't work. >Also, is it necessary to use the faux Unix shell? Or can I just use Notepad >to write my program, and then compile from the command line >(like g++.exe myprog.cpp). If you like command.com (or cmd.exe) and are only trying to build your own little program, use it instead just as you suggest. You may even want to check out the mingw32 version of the compiler thoughtfully provided by Colin Peters. It removes the reliance on cygwin.dll with all its UNIXy semantics and instead links with the MS C runtimes. You should be able to find the stuff at: http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Towers/6162/index.html http://www.fu.is.saga-u.ac.jp/~colin/index.html This may be a better first step for you. Good luck! Larry Hall lhall AT rfk DOT com RFK Partners, Inc. (781) 239-1053 8 Grove Street (781) 239-1655 - FAX Wellesley, MA 02181 http://www.rfk.com - For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".