From: rhowarth AT sgb DOT co DOT uk (Howarth, Richard) Subject: RE: emacs-like editor 2 Feb 1998 08:49:28 -0800 Message-ID: <199802020917.JAA03310.cygnus.gnu-win32@peanut.sgb.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BD2FBF.12F6DFF0" To: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD2FBF.12F6DFF0 Content-Type: text/plain I too prefer vi. I use the vi-alike "vim" which has a bewildering number of features over and above standard "vi", all of which you can ignore and use it as a straight vi clone if you prefer. Binary distributions can be found via http://www.vim.org including win32 versions. > ---------- > From: Tim Fisher[SMTP:tfisher AT teamparadigm DOT com] > Sent: 31 January 1998 02:52 > To: kubitron AT cs DOT berkeley DOT edu; juerg DOT tschirren AT isbe DOT ch > Cc: kt400797 AT oak DOT cats DOT ohiou DOT edu; gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com > Subject: Re: emacs-like editor > > Did you want an answer to this question? I prefer vi to all others > myself. > On most Unix systems some version of vi will be available when emacs > is not. > (GNU-based systems seem the opposite.) It makes sense to me. I can do > simple > things with fewer keypresses than in emacs. Emacs makes no sense to me > at > all. Too many modifier keys. You have to memorize long sequences of > meaningless keystrokes to perform the simplest operations. Ugh. Give > me vi. > Most operations are only one keystroke away, and they're easy to > remember, > (more/less, man, and vi all use the same keys). > > However, since I don't have vi available to me in NT, I use PFE > instead. > It's free, loads quickly with minimal disk activity, there are no nag > screens, and it's easily customizable. > > --Tim Fisher > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Kubiatowicz > To: juerg DOT tschirren AT isbe DOT ch > Cc: kt400797 AT oak DOT cats DOT ohiou DOT edu ; > gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com > Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: emacs-like editor > > > > It's maybe a simple but an important question. 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