From: Fabio AT Colorado DOT EDU (Fabio Somenzi) Subject: Re: Using MicroImages X Server with x11r6 NT binaries 29 Mar 1997 19:23:42 -0800 Sender: daemon AT cygnus DOT com Approved: cygnus DOT gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Distribution: cygnus Message-ID: <199703292208.PAA06793.cygnus.gnu-win32@boulder.Colorado.EDU> References: <199703292018 DOT OAA09219 AT vespucci DOT iquest DOT com> Reply-To: Fabio AT Colorado DOT EDU X-Mailer: emacs 19.32.1 (via feedmail 5 I) Original-To: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com In-Reply-To: <199703292018.OAA09219@vespucci.iquest.com> Original-Sender: owner-gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Thanks to the many who suggested several ways to determine the dynamically assigned IP. Summarizing for the benefit of others who may face the same problem: 1. From the Win95 side (which I assume to be the local side), one runs winipcfg. 2. From the Unix (remote) side, one runs "who am i" or something similar, and then extracts the name or address of the local system. I adopted the second solution because my .cshrc can take care of it. (As a matter of fact, I already had the necessary code in my .cshrc, but it was only run when the terminal type was "xterm." I failed to realize that dynamic IPs correpond to fixed, albeit fictitious, names and didn't look into the matter as carefully as I should have.) Again for the benefit of others interested in running X clients with MicroImages's server, here is a short summary of my experience so far: 1. The most common problem for many clients is fonts that may not be available. I haven't tried yet to install additional fonts, but I suspect this problem is the easiest to cure, given enough disk space. As an example, a few Perl-Tk applications I've tried fail to find Adobe fonts and refuse to run. 2. I found differences depending on whether the remote system runs Solaris or Linux. This may have nothing to do with the X server itself, and possibly nothing to do with the operating system of the remote system either. Just to give an idea of the problem, when I try to run ddd-2.0 from Linux (ddd stands for "data display debugger"), I get TRANS(SocketINETConnect) () can't get address for tele-anx0238 Error: Can't open display: tele-anx0238:0 I have no problem with the same program from Solaris. And I can run, say, an xterm from Linux. 3. ghostview crashes the X server rather systematically. (I've tried both Linux and Solaris as remote systems and a couple of different postscript files. I always got crashes.) 4. xdvi sort of works, but only if I hit the "shrink1" button. Otherwise I get a blank page. shrink1 gives the maximum magnification in xdvi, which isn't very useful. 5. xfig seems to work fine, but I haven't figured out yet how to make the entire window fit into my 800x640 screen. 6. xterm moslty works, but if I move the pointer along the font selection menu (CTRL-RIGHT_MOUSE_BUTTON) then the menu entries become invisible. With ddd I've noticed a similar problem. When a display item is selected it should be put in reverse. However, the observed result is that the item is completely black. In the same vein, ical's menus are invisible. (ical is a Tcl-Tk application.) 7. One should really have a three-button mouse, because simultaneously pressing the two buttons of a two-button mouse won't do. This is clearly explained in the FAQ. 8. There is no LBX support. (LBX stands for "low bandwidth X", as I discovered very recently.) In effect running clients over a 28,800 bps connection isn't exactly pleasurable. My previous experience was with running term between two Unix boxes over a 9600 bps connection, and this one does not seem much faster. (Though probably it is a bit faster.) 9. To finish on a positive note, I've had no problems running Pure Software's Quantify (from Solaris). In summary, the installation of MicroImages's X server is easy, and it doesn't take much disk space. With the basic installation one can get a few things done, like fixing a detail in a xfig drawing, or running a short debugging session with ddd. More intensive use and some applications will require additional investment of time or a different X server. Fabio -- Fabio Somenzi | Phone: 303-492-3466 University of Colorado | Fax: 303-492-2758 ECE Dept. | Email: Fabio AT Colorado DOT EDU Boulder CO 80309-0425 | WWW: http://vlsi.colorado.edu/~fabio - For help on using this list, send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".