From: jqb AT netcom DOT com (Jim Balter) Subject: Re: Cygnus Cygwin32 Press Release 1/21/97 12 Feb 1997 14:43:04 -0800 Approved: cygnus DOT gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Distribution: cygnus Message-ID: <33023EE6.C2F.cygnus.gnu-win32@netcom.com> References: <199702121736 DOT JAA00587 AT andare DOT fugue DOT com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) Original-To: Ted Lemon Original-CC: gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Original-Sender: owner-gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Ted Lemon wrote: > > > My question is as follows: if GCC is covered by the GPL, > > STOP RIGHT THERE!!! > > GCC isn't what Cygnus has a copyright on, nor is it what they propose > to charge people for. They have a copyright on cygwin.dll. They > developed cygwin.dll, and the libraries that go into it - they are > using their newlib library instead of GNU libc, for example. 90% of the code in newlib is copyrighted to the Regents of the University of California. There is also code that belongs to Sun and AT&T. Just about the only thing in newlib that Cygnus owns are the Makefiles. Most of Cygnus's copyright is on winsup. Of course, the UC, AT&T, etc. copyrights don't prevent Cygnus from making money on it or require them to give away any derived works. > If you don't like the fact that they're doing this, that's fine, but > you have no recourse other than to stop using their product and > develop your own. Unlike some major corporations, they will not be > offended if you do that, nor will they try to stop you. > > I could probably think of something bad to say about Cygnus if I > really worked at it, but all in all, they're a good bunch of people, > and flaming them on this mailing list isn't going to accomplish > anything. Please stop it. I haven't seem anyone here flaming Cygnus. Perhaps you mistake critical commentary for flames. OTOH, your little rant here might be characterized as a flame. The only thing I have seen from you on this mailing list are patronizing notes telling people what not to post (the last one broadly castigated people for discussing creating a newsgroup). If you don't lke what you are getting in your mailbox, you know what you can do about it. -- - For help on using this list, send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".