From: jqb AT netcom DOT com (Jim Balter) Subject: Re: using cat on binary files (CTRL-Z trauma) 29 Oct 1996 22:56:32 -0800 Sender: daemon AT cygnus DOT com Approved: cygnus DOT gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com Distribution: cygnus Message-ID: <199610300503.VAA10507.cygnus.gnu-win32@netcom23.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Original-To: dj AT delorie DOT com (DJ Delorie) Original-Cc: jqb AT netcom DOT com, kerr AT wizard DOT net, noer AT cygnus DOT com, gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com In-Reply-To: <199610300220.VAA24651@delorie.com> from "DJ Delorie" at Oct 29, 96 09:20:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Length: 1241 Original-Sender: owner-gnu-win32 AT cygnus DOT com DJ Delorie wrote: > > > > Maybe we can file a class action suit for a few billion against the > > turkey who unleashed on the world a system with such fundamentally > > bad design decisions as a two-character EOL indicator and an in-band > > EOF indicator. > > It was a good design. It's an old design. If you want to toast > someone, toast the idiots that chose to *keep* the design past its > useful life. > > If you want to know why CRLF is the standard, try this command on a unix > box: > > stty -onlcr -icrnl > > Note that MS-DOS does not have, nor has ever needed, an stty command. Funny, but my unix system continues to run even when I delete this command from the disk. stty has nothing to do with how lines are stored in files. > Nor does MS-DOS need the termios libraries. Nor does it have a > termcap. Nor can you run edit on ADM, Beehive, and Wang terminals. None of this has anything to do with how lines are stored in files. > Neither DOS nor Unix are better than the other; each has its > good points and bad points. The DJGPP mailing list sees both sides; > the dos folks switching to a unix compiler have a similar number of > valid greivances about the "Unix way". Non sequitur all the way. -- - For help on using this list, send a message to "gnu-win32-request AT cygnus DOT com" with one line of text: "help".