X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-Original-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: cygwin@cygwin.com DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 055E33851C07 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=plebeian.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wagnerc@plebeian.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=plebeian.com; s=default; h=Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Sender:Reply-To :Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oFW+Vxpo0mCjFz6IFPOxfdGWoHN2B4y2KgWMc7uA6N0=; b=uN+leSmi7Cl3Gp9hjl8eekAdo+ w7jYkmzVDC4Kewf8PfW04cKUiv4tTC9ux2UI5Sd9MAMocSiBkVcbFF1y3VNL3+TTmjEt8Ybqx3sRf orq5FyvDU/FriUmOFLxubKT9+3j8Xl0FrRofQMp4LP6gVdrnjNW0AaUQgn2GXQK0frvNLAqBoW9AI mtWz7akTWwLLoJTeFAovUdCuOcW3ahSau0OtfTqQsbVrvDnbqX0HZhoGJ2OaSqBbtI6wVqmgO0/TK LRpCXPpmYoGAzq3sLeMcAm6QBkVcP3bhrjQQMHlzqmzRXvcTDW+gg+VG2V6kfq9N/eg2NYXZ/v55P cHrOd3hA==; MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 19:08:14 -0400 From: Chris Wagner To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Default mingw _WIN32_WINNT In-Reply-To: <00b7faf1141248605e8498c1d1a57e0b783b783e.camel@cygwin.com> References: <7101b829ec197e48e3aaf373625d950e95e29df4.camel@cygwin.com> <20200505085436.GC3947@calimero.vinschen.de> <5dfce652-c039-64af-e839-2bda021f7437@emrich-ebersheim.de> <8d3d6f8a857fa0c2dbf604a2fbc3b8d9@plebeian.com> <00b7faf1141248605e8498c1d1a57e0b783b783e.camel@cygwin.com> Message-ID: <7661d7c84c44bdf5d8f40f0b3208e412@plebeian.com> X-Sender: wagnerc@plebeian.com User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - www16.qth.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - cygwin.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - plebeian.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: www16.qth.com: authenticated_id: wagnerc@plebeian.com X-Authenticated-Sender: www16.qth.com: wagnerc@plebeian.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: cygwin@cygwin.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: General Cygwin discussions and problem reports List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: cygwin-bounces@cygwin.com Sender: "Cygwin" On 2020-05-11 12:53 pm, Yaakov Selkowitz wrote: >> I would just like to chime in that it would be a crying shame if >> Cygwin >> were to ever drop support for Windows 7. There are many people, >> myself >> one, who are dead set against Windows 10. > > "Ever"?!? You do realize that, ESU aside, Windows 7 is out of support > and therefore should be assumed to be vulnerable? I suspect that something one day will make it untenable but Windows 7 is no less secure or more vulnerable than it was a year ago. All software should always be assumed to be always vulnerable. Is 10 secure on patching day but then vulnerable until the next patch day? The number of vulns in any software is fixed on the day it ships and it's whittled down as patches come out. 7 has had a heck of a lot of security fixes. It's new software that increases security holes. I have to use 10 at work and it is a ghastly operating system. Thanks. -- Problem reports: https://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: https://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: https://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: https://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple