X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; q=dns; s=default; b=LM81y3SYyN2mjq7h /mQGKGQdHvYSFx/e1HTYptI4DJS5kGB3DbXw782x7xr8dLGZmR1EP4XL7fFjHtS5 NBHuWfpEW6S2GNeMSFtkikAuR2h2qft2pX7CQFSrsxrmPmhBW3x4g1o3mJ9de13o 7AfOruDCpPfe1k1szFWENJLyVFk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=default; bh=0kwwIHuem5bNGxsvtQAcGR KV4E4=; b=dOjNc7ZyLOvUB6IiT9KB4px/akmrW9Bv9ozMXKa5xbzIJ/+kg2zGOw VrzMrvZ3iEmjuHYUhPR7Pcn1BQPos3Bmz/n3d32G9QaJifO6WKItoLHintloG+hI DaI2ehZOL8kwQwpA1m+y5Gm/w7A7L/3hsJ6lWDX1AzIgzHseqauO8= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy=ton, UD:UTF-8, en_USUTF8, en_us.utf-8 X-HELO: midtown.nycx.com Subject: Re: Different representations of time in ls -l and date(1) To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <860c2a0f5dd46780649de9a26ebc0464@mhoenicka.de> From: Frank Farance Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 09:04:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <860c2a0f5dd46780649de9a26ebc0464@mhoenicka.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes On 2016-08-31 08:09, Markus Hoenicka wrote: > At 2016-08-31 13:41, Schwarz, Konrad was heard to say: >> Sorry for the previous incomplete mail. >> >> So my problem is that date(1) outputs AM/PM style dates, whereas ls -l >> uses 24 hour times. >> >> $ ls -l rtos_benchmark.lst >> -rwxr-xr-x+ 1 mchn1350 Domain Users 263 Aug 31 13:14 rtos_benchmark.lst* >> $ date >> Wed, Aug 31, 2016 1:39:35 PM >> $ echo $LC_TIME >> >> $ echo $LANG >> en_US.UTF-8 >> >> Shouldn't they be using the same format? >> >> -- >> Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html >> FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ >> Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html >> Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple > > date has a ton of options to format the output including the 12/24 h style, , > see 'man date'. > > regards, > Markus > Markus and Marco- You have misunderstood the question. Question Intended: Why are they different? Incorrectly Interpreted: There are lots of options for "ls" and "date". I have everything in 24-hour format, yet my LC_TIME and LANG are the same as Konrad. Furthermore, I'd say that the default output of "date" should look like the Linux one, which is the way it has looked on UNIX for about 40 years: Linux: Wed Aug 31 08:56:10 EDT 2016 Cygwin: Wed, Aug 31, 2016 08:54:49 In other words, on Cygwin: get rid of the commas, put back the timezone. -FF -- ______________________________________________________________________ Frank Farance, Farance Inc. T: +1 212 486 4700 M: +1 917 751 2900 mailto:frank@farance.com http://farance.com Standards/Products/Services for Information/Communication Technologies -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple