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From: Rainer Blome <rainer.blome@gmx.de>
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Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 11:59:31 +0100
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On 08.02.2016 15:29, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
> On Jan 31 21:24, Rainer Blome wrote:
>> On 28.01.2016 21:40, Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>>>>> On a hunch, do you have old /etc/passwd and /etc/group
>>>>> files
>>>> There is no `/etc/group`, but `/etc/passwd` defines the
>>>> group ID of my user as 513
>> On a Cygwin 2.3.1 on a different machine, `/etc/passwd` also has 
>> 513 in the group column of all users. Yet, when I ask for `id`,
>> I get something like this (translated):
>> 
>> uid=197609(username) gid=197121(None) \ 
>> Groups=197121(None),545(Users),...
> 
> These values make sense.

Please enlighten me. To me it looks as if cygwin or at least mkpasswd
formerly used 513 as the gid for "None", and switched to 197121 at
some point.

I currently do not understand this:

Before I changed gid of my user from 513 to 197121 in /etc/passwd, ls
printed 513 as the group of files in the home directory. After the
change, ls prints "None" as the group. But 197121 is the id of None.
At first sight, this looks like the file group ownership has changed
from 513 to 197121, but I do not see why that should have happened.

>> No doubt. So what kind of maintenance do these files need? Should
>> I have known that they do?
> 
> They should match.  For instance, one problem is if your passwd 
> entry contains a gid not available in either the Windows user DB
> or /etc/group.

Does this mean that if /etc/passwd exists, /etc/group must also exist
(and match)? Or that, if /etc/passwd gives a currently-non-canonical
gid such as 513, /etc/group must exist and define that gid?

Regards, Rainer
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