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Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 11:23:25 -0400
From: "Chris J. Breisch" <chris.ml@breisch.org>
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Corinna Vinschen wrote:
>
> I wasn't talking about the POSIX permissions, but about the Windows
> ACL.  In your current dir, what does `icacls .' print?  Maybe that
> gives a clue.

Mea culpa. I should read better. I could have included that the last time.

$ icacls .
. WIN8-VM\Chris:(F)
   BUILTIN\Users:(RX)
   Everyone:(RX)
   NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users:(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
   CREATOR OWNER:(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
   CREATOR GROUP:(OI)(CI)(IO)(RX)
   Everyone:(OI)(CI)(IO)(RX)

Successfully processed 1 files; Failed processing 0 files

That doesn't seem too terribly strange to me.

>
>> [...]
>> Taking the example one step farther:
>>
>> $ chmod 600 bar
>> $ ls -l bar
>> -rw-rw---- 1 Chris None 0 May  5 10:10 bar
>> $ chmod 400 bar
>> $ ls -l bar
>> -r--r----- 1 Chris None 0 May  5 10:10 bar
>
>    vmbert8164+lcorinna@vmbert8164 ~
>    $ chmod 400 bar
>
>    vmbert8164+lcorinna@vmbert8164 ~
>    $ ls -l bar
>    -r-------- 1 vmbert8164+lcorinna vmbert8164+None 0 May  5 16:41 bar
>
> So I'd say it's not a generic issue but something in your environment.
> It would be nice to know what that is, of course.  Maybe there's some
> security setting?!?
>

Thanks for looking into this, Corinna. Apparently this is my problem, 
and not a Cygwin/Windows issue. That's rather odd, because the two 
machines I have tested this on are nothing alike, other than both being 
Windows 8.1 machines. They weren't even set up by the same people, or 
following the same (or any) script.

In both cases, I am logging on to the machine with a "Microsoft 
Account": http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/account/default.aspx

I can attach a cygcheck if you think there's any value in it. Doesn't 
seem likely, though. I'm looking at what's installed on the machine. 
More than I thought, but there doesn't appear to be any BLODA. I may try 
to create a new VM with nothing on it but Cygwin and see what happens.

I don't have access to the second machine right now, but I'll dig later.

I'll dig a little more on my own. I don't want to waste bandwidth on the 
Cygwin list for what appears to be a Stupid User Error.

Thanks again.

-- 
Chris J. Breisch

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