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Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 14:07:16 +0100
From: Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin@cygwin.com>
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Subject: Re: Testers needed:  New passwd/group handling in Cygwin
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On Mar 11 12:07, Achim Gratz wrote:
> Corinna Vinschen <corinna-cygwin <at> cygwin.com> writes:
> > > st_atim=3D531DE525.1B5BB150 (release)
> > > st_atim=3D531DF887.5D9B9F8  (snapshot)
> >=20
> > Access time.  On Windows it even changes when requesting certain
> > kinds of metadata :-P
>=20
> It's been consistent over many days of testing and the only difference
> between release and snapshot, so I thought I'd mention it.

Can't explain that.  There are no changes at all in this piece of code.

> > But the question is, does perl actually use that list?  The strace
> > snippets don't show anything here.  If it doesn't use the access(2)
> > call, it would have to load the full ACL of the file and match that
> > against your token group list.  This requires calls to getgroups (which
> > would create the litany of group SIDs from fetch_account_from_windows)
> > and acl.  It's pretty unlikely that perl would do this manually.
>=20
> Not that I can see, it simply seems to call stat64, which it did before. =
 I
> don't think it drops any groups, either.  And again, just mounting cygdri=
ve
> with "noacl" gets rid of the problem entirely.

There's a test in perl somewhere, which fails.  "noacl" only fakes
permissions anyway, so it doesn't matter.

> > You're still using a group file?=20=20
>=20
> I think yes, I hadn't moved it away (but no passwd file).

You don't have to move them away.  Just set nsswitch.conf.

> > Anyway, I need the full straces.  It's pretty hard to say anything, let
> > alone isolate at least the most probable cause without them.  Can you
> > please run the simple examples under the 2014-03-09 snapshot and send
> > URLs to the snapshots?
>=20
> I've just updated to the latest snapshot w/o AD integration for testing,
> will revert to the other one for more testing.  Not sure if I can fit that
> in today, will send the links via PM when I have the traces uploaded.

Thanks,
Corinna

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