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From: Frank Fesevur <ffes@users.sourceforge.net>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 13:18:25 +0100
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Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin
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2014-03-03 10:21 GMT+01:00 Corinna Vinschen:
> No, this is not mintty's fault.  You have to understand that the
> request for information from the DC is called before the actual
> application had any chance to initialize,  This happens before
> the application has, in fact, been called from the Cygwin DLL.

Understood.

> Therefore, if the three seconds are a burden, there are three choices
> going forward:
>
> - We reduce the timeout to 1 second in general, which could be a problem
>   when utilizing a slow VPN conncetion to the DC,
>
> - We allow the user to specify a timeout value and set the default to
>   1 second.
>
> - We stick to the 3 seconds and users should switch to files (/etc/passwd
>   /etc/group) when being offline from their DC.
>
> I'm really not sure what the best way is, I guess we as a community have
> to dice this out somehow.

I think the second one makes most sense. Maybe even keep the default
timeout on 3 seconds. When the user can change the value, it is up to
them to play with it and figure out what works best for them. I
personally would try to set it to 1 second, since I almost never have
a slow VPN.

Regards,
Frank

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