X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; q=dns; s= default; b=tj6y8cTxuYJJARh1OH/RPZqQVGyZQEcp1KlPWGya5Hw0FuaJg9+P5 p5ZAN9mw+7aUITfkzBDbh9AynajDP4tBUSLZ7Cy89D8KW8ez8Ro+bdmBwCiVEV0w uQ3gI6Fq1yPHDKcF3nrQNhVBz+rLl5GVTe8obHdc3j60/4PkHBrQ6A= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=sourceware.org; h=list-id :list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-archive:list-post :list-help:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:reply-to :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=default; bh=GtLqQZKyscLTPTXsCiKrymdaN1U=; b=MRocSmGEQZ6lj9z3afB7mRbYbRkJ blZASyx80ABzPjZ0L8tuF5fAuI67BchyoDg23/8Syezk3VpmSw7xx8qyOZzjHPQT VG/nNTyz/n5jfyYt7WOJ4xnGbSJM0djEleLMzr0ubLYM9/HZiM9sPxtUosZYt4Kp ge8G+uIfx7/lZ8s= Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: calimero.vinschen.de Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 10:21:14 +0100 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Testers needed: New passwd/group handling in Cygwin Message-ID: <20140303092114.GA26619@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20140227094951.GD2246@calimero.vinschen.de> <20140227134632.GG2246@calimero.vinschen.de> <765945729.20140228031219@yandex.ru> <20140228120748.GN2246@calimero.vinschen.de> <87y50vc910.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <20140228201047.GC2381@calimero.vinschen.de> <20140228210804.GE2381@calimero.vinschen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="jI8keyz6grp/JLjh" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 2 14:20, Frank Fesevur wrote: > 2014-02-28 22:08 GMT+01:00 Corinna Vinschen: > > That's not really a problem but a case of "it is as it is". To get the > > user and group info, Cygwin has to contact the DC and/or GC and then > > runs into a timeout. Right now, the LDAP timeout is set to 3 seconds. > > I don't know yet if it's such a bright idea to lower this timeout value. >=20 > I understand why it happens. And three seconds are not the problem. >=20 > It is just a bit confusing to activate the shortcut and for 3 seconds > nothing seems to happen. First time I double-clicked again because I > though it wasn't working at all. Obviously a bit later two terminal > showed up. If mintty would should up empty and "wait" those three > seconds before something happens it is more clear it just takes some > startup time. But maybe that is more a mintty problem. No, this is not mintty's fault. You have to understand that the request for information from the DC is called before the actual application had any chance to initialize, This happens before the application has, in fact, been called from the Cygwin DLL. Therefore, if the three seconds are a burden, there are three choices going forward: - We reduce the timeout to 1 second in general, which could be a problem when utilizing a slow VPN conncetion to the DC, - We allow the user to specify a timeout value and set the default to 1 second. - We stick to the 3 seconds and users should switch to files (/etc/passwd /etc/group) when being offline from their DC. I'm really not sure what the best way is, I guess we as a community have to dice this out somehow. Corinna --=20 Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Maintainer cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJTFEmKAAoJEPU2Bp2uRE+gudUP/iT9CrJIEyAHaHcjco9Q9CvR KMyesEqlAiKlsCU5pNorX5AK+wmwelB7tYRaCGewq5UCPup9U3g1VhLIylBSs3zr E7/SLHJ8zCMDFUQBXosPc1LhiQbjTtPRG7g4KIXEPimJ1jphTOnQcagOat7tYj0l WIQXOnEuVmlvFO8BeOefUdxq021h28IJnL+0s+UbyTFDqREzMlEQ6ouSc217W0id bxZjLPl/b0oUzWbQo+8A5vzIwiwZm1593/6DfbW2QNNR0mUFJBgQQqGlTJQlJI8y 2zn2ieuzJsM8BXW0lY1Pa/WxHHD5WkBcANtmhxxdxMj6kHmwW8quw9DM1i87+Ash oxI8u1qwDM/SqoB79zjsrbP/JJsWikJocMiE41u7Egl0aKCUCDbCaXT5WWXlQwO+ rZBOZepopJQddKJdCigy2HJVR3yGkQfRHJhV7IXoVZJdEg2q34J4SgXZNSqSdet3 QV1vf4cch2FFfBkiEmqsw3Brds5GW6Rr+7qwFfe27FCLiIdbCtHeNEy8nmVkUd6c /ATXO+r08tBdykoE6G00PYGjhrZesK2ULuLyYb0jZBHHYRDvbZYPdKcz2yAPAXl+ sPs09iBuqkmkyroS6OOe97gPSFaXK9jWRe3X9Jxb9iLJ/LUccg3aGjEsdekhPS2H 8XL06hf48iVdEUSN424W =V+p0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --jI8keyz6grp/JLjh--