X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_THREADED,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Andrew DeFaria Subject: Re: Side-by-side configuration is incorrect reported as permission denied Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:39:53 -0700 Lines: 31 Message-ID: References: <5025C431.7050201@cygwin.com> <20120812170641.GC32748@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <20120813082716.GA11198@calimero.vinschen.de> <20120813144247.GH23253@calimero.vinschen.de> <20120813151413.GB18354@calimero.vinschen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120714 Thunderbird/14.0 In-Reply-To: <20120813151413.GB18354@calimero.vinschen.de> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On 08/13/2012 08:14 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> There was an error message that cmd showed that bash did not. To me >> that's suppression. > This is nonsense and you know it. It's not nonsense. It's 100% accurate. What in my statement above is not the truth? >>> It's not that the OS generates an error message and cmd lets it slip >>> through while Cygwin (or bash) "suppress" it. It's the CreateProcess >>> call which generates an error code ERROR_SXS_CANT_GEN_ACTCTX and cmd >>> printing the connected error message, just like bash gets an error code >>> EACCES and prints the connected error message "Permission denied". >> Plumbing and mechanics aside, I'm just saying the user should be >> told the underlying problem. If ERROR_SXS_CANT_GEN_ACTCTX is the >> error code could ya at least print that as a string? It would give >> the user a fighting change and finding a solution... > Plumbing and mechanics is the way to solve the problem. Right, that's makes it the implementors problem, plumbing and mechanics are implementation details - not the users... > If you don't want to leave the user-only perspective, we will have a hard time to > find a solution. "We" are not finding a solution. "You" might be. "I'm" just reporting the problem. Now, does everybody have their roles straight? ;-) Oh, and I fully expect it will not be solved. But I thought I'd report it nonetheless. My "side by side" problem has been fixed. I just think you should do a better job reporting more accurate error message so that users can more easily fix them. I didn't realize, but should have realized, that in this world it seems to be considered a crime... -- Andrew DeFaria Do fish get cramps after eating? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple