X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Subject: Re: cygwin started speaking German today From: "Yaakov (Cygwin/X)" To: cygwin Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:50:33 -0500 In-Reply-To: <4E8CA0AF.50805@cornell.edu> References: <4E69D9EA.2050004@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20110909145921.GA27289@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E6F7AA1.4090808@redhat.com> <20111004122837.GA27229@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8B0007.5020500@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20111004142920.GA15757@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8B4A86.5000607@xs4all.nl> <20111004182042.GA22299@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8C7FFB.6060707@xs4all.nl> <20111005162714.GA14661@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8C948D.4070707@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <4E8CA0AF.50805@cornell.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1317840641.1708.27.camel@YAAKOV04> Mime-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On Wed, 2011-10-05 at 14:23 -0400, Ken Brown wrote: > I think you're mixing two questions that should be kept separate. The > first is how /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} should set LANG. That's a > question that the Cygwin developers and/or base-files maintainer need to > decide. Agreed. There are pros and cons both ways, and I'll leave that for another message. > The second is whether libintl should override Cygwin's locale > settings. Isn't the answer clearly no? Why can't this be fixed (in > opposition to Bruno, if necessary) before a final decision is made about > /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh}? Agreed. Cygwin is a *NIX platform, and libintl needs to respect that by not trying to set or override LANG/LC_MESSAGES. Upstream's disagreement with this point is completely irrelevant; it is simply not their place to dictate to us how our platform should operate. While it would seem that it means carrying a patch for the foreseeable future (not that gettext releases that often), if upstream refuses to cooperate then I don't see that we have much of a choice. You are also correct that this can and should be fixed ASAP, even before the first point is decided. +1 for patching this now. Yaakov -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple