X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4E8C948D.4070707@cwilson.fastmail.fm> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 13:31:57 -0400 From: Charles Wilson Reply-To: Charles Wilson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.2; WOW64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: cygwin started speaking German today References: <4E69D9EA.2050004@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20110909145921.GA27289@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E6F7AA1.4090808@redhat.com> <20111004122837.GA27229@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8B0007.5020500@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20111004142920.GA15757@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8B4A86.5000607@xs4all.nl> <20111004182042.GA22299@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8C7FFB.6060707@xs4all.nl> <20111005162714.GA14661@calimero.vinschen.de> In-Reply-To: <20111005162714.GA14661@calimero.vinschen.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On 10/5/2011 12:27 PM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > On Oct 5 18:04, Erwin Waterlander wrote: >> Op 4-10-2011 20:20, Corinna Vinschen schreef: >>> On Oct 4 20:03, Erwin Waterlander wrote: >>>> By the way, I noticed that with the default locale C.UTF-8 the >>>> nl_langinfo(CODESET) C function returns wrongly >>>> "ISO-8859-1", >>> Not for me: >>> [...] >> >> My program (wcd) uses gettext/libintl. Libintl is causing the >> effect. Libintl is not working properly with a locale C.UTF-8. That >> is a serious problem. > > That's a bug in libintl8 0.18.1.1-1. It does not happen with the > previous version 0.17-11. Hopefully this gets fixed ASAP. There are two issues with libintl 0.18.1.1-1, and apparently both are contentious. I don't want to update libintl/gettext until both are resolved. One is the discovery that libintl is always doing a very expensive "no-op" related to relocation (from "/usr/*" to "/usr/*") even when --disable-relocation. The discussion of potential fixes is over on the bug-gnulib mailing list. The other is the issue that spawned this thread, which raised questions about how basefiles::/etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} should behave, and other related complexities. IIRC we reached an impasse with this subthread (and replies): http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2011-09/msg00063.html See also the various messages in this thread, during the last day or two. So...I'm rather stuck. I can't fix anything if we don't have a plan for what the desired behavior IS. Right now, we all (except for Bruno!) agree that $current_behavior is bad. But how exactly to fix it -- and whether to do so in opposition to Bruno, the actual libintl maintainer -- is still an open question. -- Chuck -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple