X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 16:29:20 +0200 From: Corinna Vinschen To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: cygwin started speaking German today Message-ID: <20111004142920.GA15757@calimero.vinschen.de> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <7856072A9D04C24B82DFE2B1112FE38A0C27492B56@MCHP058A.global-ad.net> <201109081246.23238.bruno@clisp.org> <4E68AF35.9030002@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <201109082344.55506.bruno@clisp.org> <4E69D9EA.2050004@cwilson.fastmail.fm> <20110909145921.GA27289@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E6F7AA1.4090808@redhat.com> <20111004122837.GA27229@calimero.vinschen.de> <4E8B0007.5020500@cwilson.fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E8B0007.5020500@cwilson.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On Oct 4 08:45, Charles Wilson wrote: > On 10/4/2011 8:28 AM, Corinna Vinschen wrote: > > On Sep 13 09:45, Eric Blake wrote: > >> Given this, I think the bug is in cygwin for having base files > >> /etc/profile.d/lang.{sh,csh} which hardcode LANG to C.UTF-8 instead > >> of using locale -s -u to default LANG to the preferred Windows > >> settings. > > > > Bug? Didn't we choose C.UTF-8 after a long discussion? Are the points > > raised in this discussion invalid or outdated now? Why? I don't object > > against using `locale -sU' in lang.sh/lang.csh, but we should not do > > this without a discussion of the pros and cons. > > IIRC, that discussion occurred before the 'locale' application (was > written|got smarter). Sure, I think C.UTF-8 should be the "default > default" but the arguments in favor of respecting the users' own Windows > i18n settings make sense. Does it? Even if I'm running a german OS, I absolutely hate to see german diagnostic output from gcc, and I absolutely hate certain programs using non-ASCII chars in output. (In)famous examples are Unicode quoting chars rather than ' or ", or using the Unicode hyphen character rather than -. But that's just me. > However, one issue is that windows basically will always have SOME > setting -- even if just "English". Which would cause locale to report > 'en_US' or something. So you'd never actually SEE the "default default" > of C.UTF-8 take effect. Also, would locale append '.UTF-8' (or would > lang.{sh,csh} do so?). That's what the -U option is for. See `locale --help'. Corinna -- Corinna Vinschen Please, send mails regarding Cygwin to Cygwin Project Co-Leader cygwin AT cygwin DOT com Red Hat -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple