X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SARE_MSGID_LONG40,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <416096c60909101512l6e42ab72l4ba5fd792363eefd@mail.gmail.com> <416096c60909211154u5ddd5869v986011aa4ee13d57@mail.gmail.com> <20090922094523.GR20981@calimero.vinschen.de> <416096c60909220912s5dd749bh5cfeb670b0e78c7a@mail.gmail.com> <20090922170709.GV20981@calimero.vinschen.de> <20090923120154.GY20981@calimero.vinschen.de> <416096c60909230534g44e80d44t66b18d981b4e3a40@mail.gmail.com> <20090923124307.GD20981@calimero.vinschen.de> <20090923133939.GE20981@calimero.vinschen.de> Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 18:36:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [1.7] Invalid UTF8 while creating a file -> cannot delete? From: Robert Pendell To: cygwin@cygwin.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Ross Smith wrote: > Corinna Vinschen wrote: >> >> However, if we default to UTF-8 for a subset of languages anyway, it >> gets even more interesting to ask, why not for all languages? =C2=A0Isn'= t it >> better in the long run to have the same default for all Cygwin >> installations? >> >> I'm really wondering if we shouldn't simply default to UTF-8 as charset >> throughout, in the application, the console, and for the filename >> conversion. =C2=A0Yes, not all applications will work OOTB with chars > = 0x7f, >> but it was always a bug to make any assumptions for non-ASCII chars >> in the C locale. =C2=A0Applications can be fixed, right? > > In support of this plan, it occurs to me that any command line > applications that don't speak UTF-8 would presumably be showing the > same behaviour on Linux (e.g. odd column widths). Since one of Cygwin's > main goals is providing a Linux-like environment on Windows, I don't > think Cygwin developers should feel obliged to go out of their way to > do _better_ than Linux in this regard. > > -- Ross Smith > > I don't have anything to add on the technical side of things but I will note that most linux distributions have been defaulting to UTF-8 lately. I think it would be highly appropriate to default to UTF-8 in cygwin. Robert Pendell shinji@elite-systems.org "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple