X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Message-ID: <4A429ABE.8080201@cygwin.com> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:29:34 -0400 From: "Larry Hall (Cygwin)" Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.1.21) Gecko/20090320 Remi/2.0.0.21-1.fc8.remi Lightning/0.9 Thunderbird/2.0.0.21 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Slow/sluggish response ("system" task at 50%) References: <4A3FCCBD.70101@cygwin.com> <4A401CF4.6050202@cygwin.com> <4A405B7D.7020700@cygwin.com> <4A411665.1040300@cygwin.com> <4A4167A4.4090900@gmail.com> <4A428460.4000402@cygwin.com> <4A428B01.5010903@sidefx.com> In-Reply-To: <4A428B01.5010903@sidefx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com Edward Lam wrote: > Larry Hall (Cygwin) wrote: > > Interesting. I'm not sure why using Cygwin's 'make' would slow things > > down dramatically when running from a Cygwin terminal or shell. I can > > Note that cygwin's make is just plain slower that mingw's make to begin > with. I'm not quite sure I can explain the ~25 times speed difference > that Gene experiences but I can definitely vouch for at least a ~7 times > speed difference (which I think it primarily due to forking). > > Here's a speed test taken from an old thread on the cygwin mailing list. > I did this test just right now with virtually no CPU usage on the same > machine (WinXP SP2 x64, Intel Core i7 2.66 GHz): > > (MINGW) > $ uname -a > MINGW32_NT-5.2 SEOUL 1.0.11(0.46/3/2) 2009-05-23 19:33 i686 Msys > > $ time -p for ((i=1; i<100; i++)); do var=$(echo $i | tr [a-z] [A-Z]); done Sure, we all know that Cygwin provides Linux emulation and suffers some overhead for it. But timings from an individual machine can be misleading. Running this through multiple times for both Mingw and Cygwin 1.7 on my similarly equipped machine, I see Cygwin is somewhere between 1.7 and 2.25 times slower. Whether yours or my result is more typical, I can't say. But as you noted, neither data set provides much justification for the results reported. -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 216 Dalton Rd. (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 _____________________________________________________________________ A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting annoying in email? -- Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/ Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple