X-Recipient: archive-cygwin@delorie.com X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:51:14 -0400 From: Christopher Faylor To: cygwin@cygwin.com Subject: Re: Does anyone use insight on cygwin? Message-ID: <20080805025114.GD13120@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> Reply-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com References: <20080804233810.GA13054@ednor.casa.cgf.cx> <48979FCB.5090405@cwilson.fastmail.fm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <48979FCB.5090405@cwilson.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 08:33:15PM -0400, Charles Wilson wrote: > Christopher Faylor wrote: >> Does anyone actually use insight on Cygwin? > > I do. I am a complete idiot when it comes to using gdb in "normal" mode. > Without insight, I'm lost. > >> Keith Seitz, the insight >> maintainer, has recently made changes which will allow insight to work >> with a non-special version of tcl/tk rather than the hacked version that >> it had previously been built with. That opens the door to building a >> real version of tcl/tk for cygwin and linking insight to it. >> Unfortunately, I believe that would mean that insight would need to run >> in an X window rather than natively. > > Not a problem for me; I don't mind running an Xserver. And I routinely run > both cygwin's very old Xserver and the 'free' XMing version. > > > However, I remember this issue came up several years ago. There were a few > arguments in favor of the hacked tcl/tk version of insight: > > (1) How do you debug the Xserver if your debugger depends on it? > > (2) Red Hat's paying customers expected a standalone debugger, and would > balk at a Xserver requirement. Neither of the above is particularly important. You have the same problem using insight to debug an X server on linux. And, if Red Hat wants a standalone version they can certainly provide one. It's a Red Hat employee who is making the current changes to insight after all. cgf -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/