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Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 23:06:48 -0700
From: Paul Newell <pnewell@cs.cmu.edu>
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My thanks for offering the "if Cygwin is based on anything it would be 
FreeBSD, not Linux". I took the link I posted too literally.

There was no point to be missed in OP's purpose as I couldn't have cared 
less what his purpose was.

Though I still dislike "Wow! Zing!", I agree with your stated reasons 
excluding not caring if someone learns Unix (and allow me to alter your 
sentence to include Linux). You're not paid, this is all volunteer, I 
would think you'd want folks to learn it as all your free labor is in 
support of folks that have vested in that workflow. But you are right to 
say that if you want to play in the game, you gotta invest in learning 
the rules. So maybe "Wow!" clears that bar.

I consider this thread closed with a thanks for your replying..

Next time I send an email, it will be after I have hopefully done due 
"modicum of time" (this is meant seriously with respect to the nature of 
the email forum, not as a slight as the quotes might mistakenly imply).

Christopher Faylor wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:31:58PM -0700, Paul Newell wrote:
>   
>> "Wow!  Zing!" ???
>>
>> Hum ...
>>
>> I would think a simple "yes, understanding Unix/Linux before dealing
>> with Cygwin" would have been a bit more professional ..  or, probably
>> more to the point, encouraging one to pursue learning Unix/Linux.
>>     
>
> think "Wow! Zing!" was not anyone trying to be professional or
> encouraging.  I very much do not care what version of Linux someone uses
> and do not care if someone learns Unix.  I do think that people should
> spend a modicum of time familiarizing themselves with something before
> offering criticisms, suggestions, or advice, however.  If they can't be
> bothered to do that, and want to lecture or criticize, they should be
> prepared not to be taken very seriously.
>
> Oh and FYI, this isn't paid support and no one here has to make any
> effort whatsoever to be "professional".
>
>   
>> Regarding his comment of Ubuntu being "newbie-friendly", I live in a
>> RH/Fedora world and I was advised by Linux folks I respect to not try
>> to bring my own system up under Ubuntu as it would confuse me since I
>> am a programmer and not a sysAdmin guru.  I'm not advocating RH/Fedora,
>> but flavors on Linux are important and following this post gives me the
>> sense that Cygwin is RH based (underscored by
>> http://www.redhat.com/software/cygwin/).  Hence, that might be a better
>> model towards his understanding Linux and then Cygwin.
>>     
>
> You're wrong.  You're using software from http://cygwin.com/ .  It is not
> "RH based" in any way.  I use Ubuntu and Gentoo on the systems where I
> develop Cygwin.  Some package developers possibly don't have any Linux
> system whatsoever.
>
> As far as actual code in Cygwin is concerned, you could make the case that
> if Cygwin is "based" on anything it would be FreeBSD, not Linux.
>
> You seem to be missing the point that the only reason the OP downloaded
> Cygwin was to install Ubuntu.
>
>   
>> (the person who might be referred to in cgf's "Hmm.  Just got a similar
>> question on irc a while ago.Cygwin doesn't use : or \." (23jun08, same
>> thread) which may be fundamental but still a necessary learning
>> experience by doing wrong and being corrected ...  twice)
>>     
>
> Your confusion about /cygdrive was in email, not irc.  If you really
> were the person who was asking on irc that would qualify as being
> confused four times since I had to repeat myself there at least twice.
>
> cgf
>
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