Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@cygwin.com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@cygwin.com Mail-Followup-To: cygwin@cygwin.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@cygwin.com Reply-To: Cygwin List Message-Id: <6.1.0.6.0.20040819151818.0336e310@pop.prospeed.net> X-Sender: Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 15:19:43 -0400 To: cygwin@cygwin.com From: Larry Hall Subject: Re: perl: cpan module's interactive mode fails In-Reply-To: <20040819191313.GD21914@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> References: <41235C84.7060300@gtt-technologies.de> <4123B56F.6010003@gymel.com> <41245BEE.4090900@gtt-technologies.de> <921297065040.20040819105955@familiehaase.de> <41247824.2070901@gymel.com> <412481BC.3010000@gymel.com> <4124A107.2070403@gymel.com> <791319485950.20040819171336@familiehaase.de> <20040819155144.GC10590@cygbert.vinschen.de> <6.1.0.6.0.20040819145632.03439528@pop.prospeed.net> <20040819191313.GD21914@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:13 PM 8/19/2004, you wrote: >On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 03:08:57PM -0400, Larry Hall wrote: >>At 11:51 AM 8/19/2004, you wrote: >>>On Aug 19 17:13, Gerrit P. Haase wrote: >>>>Sigh. If I were the god of Cygwin, I would have not created textmode >>>>mounts at all. I cannot see the point why it is neccessary to use it. >>> >>>Full ACK! Unfortunately the genuine gods of Cygwin have left the >>>project already long ago and they probably don't even know anymore what >>>that should have been good for. >> >>Geoffrey Noer, the Cygwin maintainer before Chris and Corinna, felt >>that full compatibility with Windows was a primary goal and POSIX/UNIX >>compatibility was a close second (at least he expressed these views at >>the time he was running the show). This may have been a common vision >>held by others who brought Cygwin mounts into existence. I don't >>remember a time when mounts weren't used in Cygwin (I doubt there was >>such a time ;-) ) but I do recall when binary mounts were not the >>default, so clearly there was a feeling that text mounts were important >>at one time in a very real way. Not that I agree with that view. ;-) >> >>BTW, I'm not bringing this up for any real important reason. It's >>largely trivia but since the topic came up, I thought I'd share my >>recollections. > >I think the decision to do things this way probably came from Steve >Chamberlain. I wonder if it was just easier to have text mode mounts >back in the era before there was an emacs or a vi available and you >needed to use notepad or wordpad for editing. > >Of course, both have been available since 1995 at least, so that's >probably not it. > >There was also at least one major Cygnus customer (Intel) who used to >adamantly demand that text mode work reliably, IIRC. Well, that would do it. If that's not enough of a reason to boycott Intel, I don't know what is. ;-) -- Larry Hall http://www.rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office 838 Washington Street (508) 893-9889 - FAX Holliston, MA 01746 -- Unsubscribe info: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple Problem reports: http://cygwin.com/problems.html Documentation: http://cygwin.com/docs.html FAQ: http://cygwin.com/faq/