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Date: Tue, 07 Oct 2003 15:51:28 -0700
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Subject: Re: 1.5.4-1: Problem with XEmacs, fonts, and subprocesses.
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Yadin Y. Goldschmidt wrote:

> It is true that making a xemacs.bat file which contains
> c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe /bin/bash -c
> "/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin/xemacs" makes XEmacs run correctly
> under cygwin 1.5.5. (Actually one needs to add a line 'set
> cygwin=tty ' before that line if one does not already have it in
> the windows' environment). Alternatively one can run it from rxvt.
> By running correctly I mean nvoking secondary processes like
> opening a shell or compiling a program.  However the bigger
> question is why XEmacs ran correctly before from its icon on the
> desk and it does not run correctly now? It must be something that
> has changed going from cygwin 1.3.22 to 1.5 that prevents runnung
> this application from the dos command line when it was compiled
> with cygwin.  In 1.3.22 it ran flawlessly.  It seems that this
> change affects also some other applications. 

Right, it was a change in the 1.5.x series related to tty management 
code.  I think the changes made to help services run without pop-up 
windows broke XEmacs

 > I wonder also if once XEmacs is compiled with 1.5.5 it will also
 > run from the dos prompt or icon or not.

I compile my own XEmacs and it does not make a difference.  It also 
doesn't matter if XEmacs is compiled with X support or not.

I have not experienced the problem with fonts, but I do have a problem 
with copy/paste; it stops interacting with the Windows clipboard once a 
subshell is started, unless XEmacs is started from rxvt.  One 
interesting bit of information is that if XEmacs is configured to use 
pipes instead of ttys for subprocesses (setq process-connection-type 
nil), copy/paste works fine.

I've taken several stabs at debugging this problem, but the tty 
management in the Cygwin kernel is over my head.

> "Henry S. Thompson" <ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:f5bllrxpdi4.fsf@erasmus.inf.ed.ac.uk...
> 
>>Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> writes:
>>
>>
>>>On Mon, 6 Oct 2003, Henry S. Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Igor Pechtchanski <pechtcha@cs.nyu.edu> writes:
>>>>
>>>><snip/>
>>>>
>>>>>>If you're _really_ obsessive (like me :-( about launching from an
>>>>>>icon, compile the following and point the icon at it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hope this helps,
>>>>>>ht
>>>>>>[code snipped]
>>>>>>   if (CreateProcess (NULL, "c:\\cygwin\\bin\\bash -c
> 
> \"/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin/xemacs -f gnuserv-start\"", &sec_attrs,
> NULL, TRUE, 0,
> 
>>>>>>                      NULL, NULL, &start, &child))
>>>>>
>>>>>Ouch!  Why not simply point the shortcut at
> 
> 'c:\cygwin\bin\bash --login -c
> 
>>>>>"/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin/xemacs -f gnuserv-start"'?
>>>>>      Igor
>>>>
>>>>Because that produces an unsightly command window as well as the
>>>>desired xemacs window.  That's what all the WinMain etc. stuff is
>>>>there to defeat.
>>>>
>>>>ht
>>>
>>>Umm, yeah, ok, make that 'c:\cygwin\usr\X11R6\bin\run.exe /bin/bash
>>>--login -c "/usr/local/bin/i686-pc-cygwin/xemacs -f gnuserv-start"',
> 
> then.
> 
>>>:-D
>>>Igor
>>
>>Ah, but I don't run X, just vanilla cygwin.
>>
>>See you and raise you again :-)
>>
>>ht
>>-- 
>>  Henry S. Thompson, HCRC Language Technology Group, University of
> 
> Edinburgh
> 
>>                      Half-time member of W3C Team
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>>    Fax: (44) 131 650-4587, e-mail: ht@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
>>     URL: http://www.ltg.ed.ac.uk/~ht/
>> [mail really from me _always_ has this .sig -- mail without it is forged
> 
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