Mailing-List: contact cygwin-help@sourceware.cygnus.com; run by ezmlm List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: cygwin-owner@sources.redhat.com Delivered-To: mailing list cygwin@sources.redhat.com Message-Id: <4.3.1.2.20010210124955.00b8f490@pop.ma.ultranet.com> X-Sender: lhall@pop.ma.ultranet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.1 Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:58:09 -0500 To: Warren Young , Cygwin-L From: "Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" Subject: Re: time to download In-Reply-To: <3A85048D.E55C428B@etr-usa.com> References: <4.3.1.2.20010209171626.019ae7c0@pop.ma.ultranet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:06 AM 2/10/2001, Warren Young wrote: >"Larry Hall (RFK Partners, Inc)" wrote: > > > > If you do download some minimal set though and you have any trouble using > > Cygwin, the first thing you should do is download and install the rest of > > the packages ... > >I suppose that's fine for the lucky folk behind a big pipe, but Cygwin >these days has added several packages that no user will need to make >their system work: they should only be downloaded on an as-needed >basis. Examples: openssh, squid, mutt, perl, zip/unzip, ncftp... These >are all useful packages, of course, but they're "leaf nodes" on the >Cygwin dependency tree. With the exception of openssh, all of the packages you list here are from the "contrib" directory, which I noted were optional. >On this note, it might be useful to have two vetted configurations, >"minimal user" and "minimal developer", which each do what you'd >expect. The third would be "custom", which would take you to the >current package selection screen. I think we could get "minimal user" >down to 5 MB or so. Certainly less than 10. It certainly would be beneficial to have some way of determining dependencies so that a smaller set could be downloaded by those who want just that. Figuring out the dependencies among all the packages is tractable but not simple. Unless someone volunteers to do this, I don't see this happening soon. In the meantime, whether its practical, realistic, or desirable, downloading all packages in "latest" is the recommended way to get a working Cygwin environment. As always, people are free to do as they want but support from this list pretty much requires a known base installation. Those that don't have it and report problems are always directed to first install everything... Larry Hall lhall@rfk.com RFK Partners, Inc. http://www.rfk.com 118 Washington Street (508) 893-9779 - RFK Office Holliston, MA 01746 (508) 893-9889 - FAX -- Want to unsubscribe from this list? Check out: http://cygwin.com/ml/#unsubscribe-simple