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Date:	Thu, 22 Apr 1999 09:33:40 +0200
From:	Martin Kahlert <martin DOT kahlert AT mchp DOT siemens DOT de>
To:	pgcc AT delorie DOT com
Subject:	Re: Mailinglist misc.
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Hi,
i'm the original author of this mega thread, and i am very
sorry about ever having started it.

I didn't want to accuse anybody, but i never got such an 
unfriendly answer to any bugreport i made, before.
I'm on 10 mailing lists (with this one it's now 11), which 
produce a huge amount of traffic for my procmail.
So i wanted to avoid having one more. (I expected it to be
of similar volume as egcs).

I'm sorry, that i can't contribute code to such a great 
prog as egcs/pgcc, because it needs a lot
of time to understand its internal structure; thus i only
can contribute by testing.
I am working with a big C/Fortran prog which should 
provide a good testcase for compilers. (egcs snapshots
often don't get through it).

Regarding testing: I would like to try a recent pgcc snapshot,
but i am behind a firewall, which doesn't allow anonymous cvs
access. is there any possibility for me? It seems, you stopped
the ftp-snapshots at about pgcc-19990124.

Quoting Gian-Carlo Pascutto (GianCarlo DOT Pascutto AT advalvas DOT be):
> >I don't think that sending a bug report is a "I want
> >you to support me" thing.
> 
> No, 
> but if you ask for help it is, IMHO.
> quote original message:
> "I am not on this list, so please cc me any response."
> 
> I think the original author really wanted to get helped,
The goal of reporting a bug is to get it fixes. If you call that
help, you are right, of course.

> and I don't blame him for that, but I do blame him for
> wanting the help privately mailed rather than openly
> discussed. 
I thought a cc is an additional copy of an email? So where comes
your 'privately mailed' from? i only wanted to know the results
of this thread on this ml, too. It's clear that it should be openly
discussed on a ml, since that's the main reason to set one up.

Sorry again for wasting bandwidth,
but i hope this thread is closed now, and i don't further stop
people from doing real work.

Bye,
Martin.

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