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Date:	Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:14:57 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time)
From:	Jan Gyselinck <JAN DOT GYSELINCK AT student DOT kuleuven DOT ac DOT be>
To:	Marc Lehmann <pcg AT goof DOT com>
cc:	Pug Fantus <pug_fantus AT usa DOT net>, beastium <beastium-list AT Desk DOT nl>
Subject:	Re: Problem with pgcc....
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On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Marc Lehmann wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 17, 1998 at 12:42:09AM +0000, Pug Fantus wrote:
> 
> > (which is the only version I can find) is based on gcc 2.8.x (I might be
> > wrongm but anyway) and everyone knows there are some major problems with
> > gcc 2.8.x (ie stuff that used to compile (with 2.7.2.3) doesn't compile
Could be, but latest pgcc versions (and also some not-so-late versions)
are based on egcs, not on gcc 2.8.x.  Egcs too does some things that gcc
2.7.3 didn't do, and that causes trouble sometimes.
(f.e. linuxkernel 2.0.33 compiled with pgcc/egcs and your X won't work
anymore.  Linus says he won't change the source unless egcs behavior is
documented)
> 
> I don't care for broken programs. If programs don't compile anymore, it's by
> 99.999% a bug in these programs. Better fix the programs rather than
> kludging your compiler.
Or not-documented behavior, maybe?  Programs are there to help the user,
isn't it? :p
> 
> > under 2.8.x).  Is there a version still out there that is based on gcc
> > 2.7.2.3
Latest pgcc won't cause you that much trouble, if it'll cause you trouble.
Using glibc-2 will cause you much more trouble (and already lot's of
people survive with glibc-2, can't be that hard to survive eh?) 
> No. 2.7.2.3 is old, buggy, and supports only C ;) Fix your programs.
This sounds like we're ruled by the tiranny of GCC/EGCS :p


Jan Gyselinck
PGCC user and proud of it :)

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