Mail Archives: opendos/2005/04/26/08:20:41
Originally to: da Silva, Joe
yep, PNW is too old for any netware from the last decade. err, I have a 25 user
netware 3.12 you can play with thou. only 22 floppy images too. or, if you
really want to yank out all your hair, I can get you netware 5.1 or 6.0 to
really drive you nuts.
Corey+
> From: "da Silva, Joe" <Joe DOT daSilva AT ampymetering DOT com DOT au>
>
> Sigh!
>
> Over the holidays I've started (contemplating;-) experimenting with
> networking two (or more;-) of my PC's. DR-DOS 7.XX comes with
> PNW, so this seemed like an obvious choice to use.
>
> Firstly, I established what I/O and IRQ resources were available
> on these PC's, selecting I/O address 300h and IRQ 5 or IRQ 10
> as suitable for use by a network card.
>
> Secondly, I tried to identify what network cards I had and what
> resouces they required (or could be configured to use). Initially,
> I settled on a pair of SMC 8013EPC cards, until I realized they
> would use up a 16K memory window, whereas I tend to make full
> use of my UMB space for various DOS drivers and for EMS. Next,
> I tried to identify a pair of old 8 bit Novell cards and a pair of (also
> old) 16 bit Novell cards - AFAICT, these are NE1000 and NE2000
> cards, respectively (well, they don't have a recognizable model
> number, but the NE1000 and NE2000 packet drivers are happy to
> load with them and report their MAC address correctly). Although
> these cards only support IRQ 2 through 5 (I'd have preferred to
> use IRQ 10), they don't require a RAM window, so are ideal for
> a DOS environment. Since I expect the 16 bit cards will have
> better performance over the 8 bit cards, I settled for the (AFAICT)
> NE2000 cards.
>
> Alas, when I tried to load the VLM ODI drivers (NE2000.COM is
> 1996/04/01 vintage), I got the error message :
> "The hardware configuration conflicts"
>
> The same vintage NE1000.COM driver, using the same hardware
> configuration (different card of course, same settings), loads
> without any such error message.
>
> Next, I tried installing the Client32 for DOS (version 2.71) drivers
> with the NE2000 cards. Seemed OK, no such error message.
>
> Well, it seems very strange to me that Novell's VLM ODI NE2000
> driver isn't compatible with their own NE2000 card, yet that's what
> the above suggests to me! :-(
>
> Since the Client32 NE2000 driver seems happy with the 16 bit
> Novell cards, I though perhaps this would be a suitable (actually,
> preferred, because it loads in XMS, leaving more free conventional
> memory) driver to use with PNW. However, the posting below,
> and other stuff I can find on the Internet, suggests these are not
> compatible (also, I don't know if the Client32 stuff can perform
> server-type functions for peer-to-peer networking). :-(
>
> So,
>
> 1) Can anyone confirm (or otherwise) that Novell's VLM ODI NE2000
> driver is broken, when using an original (early 90's) Novell card?
>
> 2) Have I correctly interpreted Ben's posting, which to me says that
> the Client32 drivers are incompatible with PNW?
>
> Joe.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ben A L Jemmett [SMTP:ben DOT jemmett AT ukonline DOT co DOT uk]
> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 1:34 PM
> > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > Subject: Re: File transfer util in DR-DOS? [PNW vs Netware]
> >
> ---------- snip ----------
>
> > > I not in a position to do any heroic hardware upgrades on the machines,
> > but
> > > I do have an old 10-T hub which also has a coax port, and I was going to
> > > plug the network cable from one of the computers into this, along with a
> > > laptop. I'm hoping that will get me on the network. Once I am, will a
> > > Netware client on the laptop be able to see the Personal Netware server
> > and
> > > log on for file sharing?
> >
> > The old VLM client for DOS is the only one that will access a Personal
> > NetWare
> > server. At a protocol level, PNW and NetWare itself are incompatible, so
> > the
> > other Novell clients won't talk to PNW. I'm not sure if the Macintosh
> > client
> > will talk to PNW, since that's nothing to do with Novell these days, but I
> > doubt it'll work. At a transport level, Personal NetWare uses IPX.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ben A L Jemmett.
> > (http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ben.jemmett/, http://www.deltasoft.com/)
>
>
>
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