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From:	"Mike Tripp" <ccoky AT iglou DOT com>
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Date:	Sunday, 18 Jan 2004 10:10:33 -500
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Originally to: opendos AT delorie DOT com

Hello opendos AT delorie DOT com!

15 Jan 04 08:19, Gary Welles wrote to OpenDos:

 >> Since that's already in place, including being connected as part
 >> of the internet;  I'm not sure what your point is...

 GW> A network having a gateway to the Internet, as Fidonet does, does
 GW> not make it part of the Internet.  I assume Fidonet users can
 GW> exchange messages without those messages traversing the Internet,
 GW> or at least not as Internet mail (SMTP).

The classic networking definition of a "gateway" =does= require being a member 
of the multiple networks involved, so those gateway systems are "part of the 
Internet" or they can't technically "gate".

With the advent of IP mailers for Fidonet, the majority of IP nodes in Fido are 
tunneling Fido protocols within Internet protocols...not utilizing the 
translation services provided by a gateway to convert one to the other.  That 
=does= (necessarily) make them a "part of the Internet" =and= "part of Fidonet" 
simultaneously, during a single connection.

With some IP mailers, it is also possible to transfer Fido data files (including 
messages) using only Internet protocols, and none of the Fidonet 
handshake/transfer protocols.

.\\ike

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