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Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:11:12 +1100 (EST)
From: DONALD PEDDER <jims_son AT jedi DOT apana DOT org DOT au>
To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
Subject: Re: several technical problems
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.56.0311291303160.27131@jedi.apana.org.au>
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Reply-To: opendos AT delorie DOT com

   Well, my message didn't make it through before because...

> Please edit out the PC-DOS graphics characters.  They make it look too
> much like asian spam.

   ...so here we go again. :-)


> If you still have Windows installed, you might be able to get rid of it
> by right-clicking on the Recycle Bin and clicking Properties, selecting
> "Configure drives independently" then tick the "Do not move files to the
> Recycle Bin" box on the tab corresponding to the partition in question.

   I did that (even though I never delete anything on that partition when
I'm in Windows), and then when I also did...

> The easiest way to correct this problem is to run MS ScanDisk;

   It gave me the option of deleting the recycled directory. :-) I did
that, and my problem was resolved.


> Could you tell us more about 'this computer' (CPU, mainboard, BIOS,
> memory, add-on cards, etc.)?

   Uh, I can try. :-) The CPU is a Celeron 466MHz, my system-board is
"PC100 slot 1/socket 370 M741lmrt", AMIBIOS, memory is 64Mb,
sound-cards,etc. are built-in to the system-board.


> What is the GREEN command in your AUTOEXEC?

   It's just a little pascal program that sets my text-colour to green.
Unfortunately, as soon as I use an app (like the editor) it reverts to
white again. I've still not yet found out how to permanently set it to
green.


> Please try (1) with HIMEM.SYS instead of EMM386; (2) with EMM386, but
> without NWCDEX.

   Using HIMEM.SYS worked, but there's still one bug. I can swap sessions
okay with multiple editors open, but if I am logged on and swap from that
session it hangs up the modem. :-( If I can sort out my memory shortage
though then it's not a problem.


> Could you redirect the output of MEM /A to a file (MEM /A > MEM.LST) and
> post it to the list?

   Asian-spam looking stuff deleted. :-)

   Address    Name         Size                Type
    0:0000  --------   A0000h, 655,360  ------------- RAM -----
    0:0000  --------     400h,   1,024  Interrupt vectors
   40:0000  --------     100h,     256  ROM BIOS data area
   50:0000       DOS     200h,     512  DOS data area
   70:0000      BIOS     900h,   2,304  Device drivers
   70:0023  CON                          System device driver
   70:0035  AUX                          System device driver
   70:0047  PRN                          System device driver
   70:0059  CLOCK$                       System device driver
   70:006B  COM1                         System device driver
   70:007D  COM2                         System device driver
   70:008F  COM3                         System device driver
   70:00A1  COM4                         System device driver
   70:00C7  LPT1                         System device driver
   70:00D9  LPT2                         System device driver
   70:00EB  LPT3                         System device driver
   70:016E     A:-F:                     System device driver
  100:0000       DOS    1400h,   5,120  System
  100:0048  NUL                          System device driver
  100:00CC       DOS     10Fh,     271   HANDLES=3D, FCBS=3D  5 total blocks
  240:0000       DOS    6B30h,  27,440  System
  242:0000       DOS      A5h,     165   HANDLES=, FCBS= 3 total blocks
  24F:0000  EMMQXXX0     2F0h,     752   DEVICE  installed device driver
  27F:0000  DPMSXXX0     630h,   1,584   DEVICE = installed device driver
  2E3:0000  SETVERXX     1F0h,     496   DEVICE = installed device driver =B3
  303:0000  MSCD000     5240h,  21,056   DEVICE = installed device driver =B3
  828:0000       DOS     98Ch,   2,444   HANDLES=, FCBS=  46 total blocks =B3
  8F3:0000   COMMAND     1F0h,     496  Program
  912:0000   COMMAND     210h,     528  Environment
  933:0000   TASKMGR     140h,     320  Data
  947:0000    NWCDEX      E0h,     224  Environment
  955:0000    NWCDEX    1C50h,   7,248  Program
  B1A:0000   TASKMGR      E0h,     224  Environment
  B28:0000   TASKMGR     2A0h,     672  Program
  B52:0000   COMMAND     140h,     320  Data
  B66:0000    BITCOM      E0h,     224  Environment
  B74:0000    BITCOM   49C10h, 302,096  Program
 5535:0000   COMMAND      E0h,     224  Data
 5543:0000   COMMAND     1F0h,     496  Program
 5562:0000   COMMAND     210h,     528  Environment
 5583:0000       MEM      E0h,     224  Environment
 5591:0000       MEM   15C20h,  89,120  Program
 6B53:0000  --------   346C0h, 214,720  FREE
 9FBF:0000       DOS   28410h, 164,880  System
 9FC0:0000  --------     400h,   1,024  Extended ROM BIOS data area
 C000:0000  --------    8000h,  32,768  ------------- ROM -----
 C800:0000  --------   24000h, 147,456  ---------- Upper RAM --
 C800:0000    EMM386     340h,     832  XMS Upper Memory Block
 C834:0000       DOS     D50h,   3,408  System
 C909:0000   NWCACHE    15C0h,   5,568  XMS Upper Memory Block
 CA65:0000   NWCACHE    4010h,  16,400  XMS Upper Memory Block
 CE66:0000  DRMOUSE     1990h,   6,544  Program
 CFFF:0000   TASKMGR    3960h,  14,688  XMS Upper Memory Block
 D395:0000   COMMAND    2090h,   8,336  Data
 D59E:0000  --------   16620h,  91,680  FREE
 EC00:0000  --------    4000h,  16,384  ------------- ROM -----
 F800:0000  --------    1000h,   4,096  ---------- Shadow ROM -
 FFFF:00E0   COMMAND    2080h,   8,320  Program
 FFFF:2240       DOS     F70h,   3,952  DOS BIOS code
 FFFF:31B0       DOS    7280h,  29,312  DOS kernel code
 FFFF:A430       DOS    1F2Ch,   7,980   BUFFERS=  15 disk buffers
 FFFF:C35C  --------     D37h,   3,383  FREE
 FFFF:EE96     SHARE    115Ah,   4,442  Program

 Memory Type             Total Bytes ( Kbytes  )  Available For Programs
 Conventional             654,336 (    639K )         304,064 (    297K )
 Upper                    147,456 (    144K )          91,680 (     90K )
 High                      65,520 (     64K )           3,383 (      3K )
 Extended              57,606,144 ( 56,256K )               0 (      0K )
 Extended via XMS            --------              48,076,800 ( 46,950K )
 Largest executable program:  304,048 ( 297K )
 Total Free DOS memory:       395,744 ( 386K )


   This looks very handy. :-) This says I have 46Mb available via XMS -
how do I make the programs use that? Also, for something that terminates
without staying resident, how would I find out how much memory it is
using?


> Please tell us more about your system configuration.

   Like? I'm not really into the technical side, so if you want to find
something out you need to tell me what commands to run or where I'm
looking. e.g. I had never used the mem command until just now.


> There is at least a few experienced TASKMGR users on the list, and I
> hope you'll finally get multitasking to work.

   It's working okay now, other than the hanging up the modem issue. I had
it running on an older computer (might've also been an older version), so
it's frustrating that when I "upgrade" it's not working properly anymore
(however, I encounter this all the time at work - every single "upgrade"
we have ever had has made life more difficult in fact).


> Remember, as far as anything running in *any* DOS is concerned, you
> hsave no more than 640k of RAM (768 if you play certain games).

   I didn't think that would be an issue, but having done "mem /a" now, I
can see that I've already used up half my (640k) memory. I guess I need to
do some fine-tuning of my memory usage?


> Well, you should move any files you need to another directory, then
> remove the hidden attribute (use the attrib command) and then remove the
> directory.

   I went into the recycled directory and did "attrib -h *.*", but it
didn't find anything. I then went back to the root directory and did
"attrib -h recycled" and it tells me "file not found".
   So, I wasn't able to clear it in DOS, but the Windows approach worked.

   Is there a DOS utility I can run which'll make sure I don't have any
LFN's hanging around on the disk? I want to keep it clean so that I can
run delwatch/diskopt on it.


thanks,
   DONALD.

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