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Date:	Thu, 6 Dec 2001 22:49:08 -0800
Subject:	Re: configuring sound card
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From:	Robert W Moss <domanspc AT juno DOT com>
Reply-To:	opendos AT delorie DOT com

You are right Joe.  Actually I did not mean to put Win Modem there, 
although on many of the new boards including the Aptiva series, 
and NetVista series, the sound, modem, video, USB are all built 
into the motherboard chipset, and Intel and some other chipset 
manufacturers have bent over backward to please Uncle Bill by 
making the sound and modem require some form of Windoze to 
operate correctly.  

Neal, All the IBM PCs come with a Recovery Disk which will wipe out 
all your upgraded stuff and restore your C:\ drive to exactly what it was

when your computer was delivered to the company that sold you the 
computer.  Any time  you have a severe system crash which WINME 
can not auto-correct (it has an auto restore setup which will restore 
your boot-up to the last successful boot -up), you will have to use the 
recovery disk.   I have an IBM Aptiva 200Mhz  and I have not been 
able to get the Video or sound to work when I attempt to install 
LINUX, even WINLINUX.  DOS programs have to be loaded carefully 
to run on WINME, and in many cases require the user to write a 
Quick Basic loader program to insure the DOS program does not 
interfere with the WinDoze memory.  Setting up WINME over WIN98SE 
was time consuming and required several trips to the WEB for new 
drivers and updated BIOS files.  After six months I still have some bad 
times with it.  I prefer to use my old DOS APPS and WIN311, but  when 
I need it for compatibility at school or at work,  I still need the newer

M$ Apps like M$ Office 2000/2001for a lot of stuff.  You should consider 
setting up a Multi- boot system with DRDOS/OPENDOS/BEOS/WINME.  
Then your DOS Apps would not interfere and you could have it all on one 
computer.

DOS utilities do not come with ME AFAIK, since ME uses a DOS 
Emulator system, but you can get M$DOS 7 by downloading from M$ 
on the WEB if you know where to look and/or  don't mind spending the
 time looking.  They are also included in WIN98SE in the 
\Windows\Command folder. Bill Gates had his programmers write in 
special code detectors to identify DR/OPENDOS and cause problems 
for DR/OPENDOS users.  He wanted only M$DOS on his WINDOZE 
systems.  I heard that he was upset because DR would not pay for some  
of the compatibility code needed to be 100% compatible and he wanted to 
get even with them and teach them who was the KING.  I believe This was 
one of the things included in the Digital Research/Lineo lawsuit.

Many DOS programs reset your computer to the old cga/ega screen 
size (like 320/200) and the screen has to be re-set every time you use 
them.  Unless you have DOS on the computer before you install WINME 
and set up for a dual boot system DOS will always be a problem since 
WINME ignores all config.sys and autoexec.bat files on bootup, and that 
is why the Quick Basic Loader files are needed for most DOS programs 
that are not specifically written for ME.  Also another part of the
problem 
is  the old M$/PC/DR/OpenDos DOS doesn't like FAT 32 and ME is FAT 32.   


When Bill Gates released WinDoZe ME he declared to the world that DOS 
was 'DEAD'  and now he has released WinDoZe 2000 and WinDoZe XP 
(which  are M$ NT,  or M$ Versions of UNIX) .  He officially declared DOS

buried and M$ will no longer support DOS.  Being the person he is it is 
pretty sure he will never release M$DOS to the open scource world, even 
more so than Lineo has.  As far as he is concerned we are all stupid for 
using DOS, and all the instructors in the Tech Schools around Northern 
California seem to agree and preach that idea.  They don't even like to
see 
people using WIN31or WIN9x, and a 286/386/486 computer really blows 
them away, since WINME requires at least a P5/166Mhz cpu and 32MB of 
RAM to creep along (recommended 233Mhz and 64MB and it still creeps 
and crashes due to lack of RAM).  
 
BOB ' DOMAN ' MOSS
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