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From: "Christoph Fuchs" <christoph DOT fuchs AT surfway DOT de>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
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Subject: drdos.net docdos.net - working correct now! (WAS: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup)
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2001 11:09:29 +0200
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> > or Christophīs http://www.drdos.net? (Well, my site is still
>
> This page is no good. All I get when I try to get on this site is
> error 403: forbidden.
>
> I get the same for docdos.net

Well, I'm sorry, but I had some problems with my ISP. Now, the websites are
working correct and I'm working for a new and better layout (drdos.net). I
try to keep your bookmarks working!

Do you have got some ideas for any improvements concerning drdos.net or
docdos.net?

thank you,
Christoph
____________________________________
Christoph Fuchs
http://www.drdos.net
http://www.docdos.net
http://www.docdos.de


----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Moran" <pmoran22 AT yahoo DOT com>
To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthias Paul" <Matthias DOT Paul AT post DOT rwth-aachen DOT de>
> To: <opendos AT delorie DOT com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: New DR-DOS Club and eGroup
>
>
> > On 2001-06-23, Patrick Moran wrote:
> >
> > > Leaves I have started a new Club and Group at Yahoo. I have
> been
> > > having a lot of problems with trying to give people links to
> > > follow for software related to DRI. Links are broken, sites
> > > and software have disappeared.
> >
> > Hm, I hope not to sound too negative. I appreciate any DRI
> > related activism -- in fact, we would need much more of it!
> >
> > But still, why donīt you point them to Florianīs
> http://www.drdos.org
>
> I think you missed my point. I am sick and tired of links not
> working and referring people to links for files that do not exist
> any more. I will give some examples as I go with this message. I
> do have a link to the www.drdos.org site as it still works and use
> it often, but many links on that page are broken. I cannot find
> one good link any place for WEBSPYDER Beta 2. The link that I
> think you mentions in the DOS FORUM WEB page for DR-DOS 5.0 is no
> good.
>
> In fact I have not been able to connect with any bookmarks I have
> or find on web pages for any xxxx.cjb.net site.
>
> Now people from anywhere can go to this group I made and directly
> download these files from there. I currently have DR-DOS 3.40,
> 3.41, 5.0, 6.0, Novell DOS 7.0, Concurrent DOS-386 v2.0, and the
> Novell DOS 7.0 TIDs, TIPs, Tutors, and other related stuff. No one
> has all of this at any one place. Most or some and maybe all of
> this is very hard to find, especially the latest versions,
> updates, and working automatic updates.
>
> > or Christophīs http://www.drdos.net? (Well, my site is still
>
> This page is no good. All I get when I try to get on this site is
> error 403: forbidden.
>
> I get the same for docdos.net
>
> Also, it seems that your page or pages have been changed as well,
> my bookmarks do not work any more for your web pages.
>
> > around as well, but many external links on the OpenDOS page
> > are broken and the info has not been updated. This will remain
> > so for "historic reasons" - I would like to add new pages
> > but I donīt find the time...)
>
> This is a real pain in the butt. When I refer people to the
> OpenDOS page and the links are broken. I do not have the time to
> go to all of the DOS/CP/M/GEM and other websites and check out
> their links. The owners should check them and update them. If they
> are there for historical purposes, say so and state link no longer
> valid next to it.
>
>
> > Personally I have a problem with Yahoo! groups for several
> > reasons:
> >
> > - It is very difficult to configure per email (at least last
> >   time I tried a couple of months ago), and the web interface
> >   is confusing and slow at best. Well, I donīt like to
> >   be dependent on a graphical web browser anyway, because
> >   it does not allow me to work offline.
>
> I did not seem to have any such problems. I set everything up in
> just a couple of hours and was receiving e-mail almost
> immediately. I have joined other groups and do not recall having
> to give private information. (You can always lie about that. I
> have mailboxes set up just for that purpose and phoney user
> information that is setup in Gator and all I do is click on the
> profile I want in Gator and it fills out the forms for me
> automatically.)
>
> > - Yahoo asks all kind of privacy info to join a group.
> >   I am not going to give more info to someone anonymous
> >   (and commercial!) than I like to.
> >
> > - By joining them you declare that they can do whatever
> >   they what to do with the contents and thereby they
> >   undergo common copyright laws, which are maintained
> >   in most individually or university funded newsgroups
> >   and mailing lists...
>
> You can use phoney filenames and encrypt them and who can do
> anything about that?
>
> > Well, I think that DJ Delorie has done a great job in
> > keeping this forum open and up for more than four years
> > now and it does not look as if he would plan to abandon it.
>
> Yes this is a good forum, however he has a lot of restrictions and
> a lot of my messages get bounced.
>
> > Traffic has been very low or quite off-topic recently,
> > but I donīt see this changing if everyone has to join
> > five or more DR-DOS related groups and chats instead
> > of one, and check dozends of websites. So, why *donīt*
> > we all join *one* forum (preferably this one, if DJ
> > does not plan to abandon it) and refer anyone interested
> > in joining this forum as well?
>
>
> Yes but people can go to my group and do it all in one place.
> Messages, Chat, Files, links, etc.
>
> I have e-mail several people each of the following:
> DR-DOS 3.41, DR-DOS, WEBSPYDER, DR-DOS 6.0, updates and other
> DR-DOS stuff. I have also posted this stuff several times to News
> Groups, because it is not available, or links are broken, or the
> files are messed up. I have redone the messed up boot sectors,
> updates that do not work right, outdated TID, TIPS and other stuff
> I have found to be jacked up.
>
> > The bottom line is: What is the advantage to have
> > two instead of one mailing lists dealing with the
> > same subject? Donīt you think we should join forces
> > instead of cast outselfs in the winds? Pat, I wish
> > many people will join your group, but do you think
> > that the audience will be different from that in
> > this group? If so, why donīt we come together in
> > one forum?
> >
> > Please get this as constructive criticism.
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> >  Matthias
> >
> > BTW. Something that I like to see improved:
> >
> > Old logs of this group should be made available
> > for download somewhere from DJīs site. Preferably
> > as ASCII text packed in monthly .ZIP files.
> > This would allow to browse the stuff offline.
> > DJ, would do you think?
>
> I think this is a good idea, but how much space does he have at
> that site? You can get many megabytes of old DR-DOS stuff like
> this right from the Lineo site. Probably 10's of megabytes. I just
> downloaded a few of them and it was several MB. Eventually I'll
> get them all.
>
> DB
>
>
>
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