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Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:39:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: Install DR DOS to a Logical Partition ?
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In <000801c0fddd$a41ae680$5208e289 AT mpaul>, on 06/25/01 
   at 06:31 PM, "Matthias Paul" <Matthias DOT Paul AT post DOT rwth-aachen DOT de> said:


>> Lineo certainly isn't giving any support, or even an
>> directions on where to find support.

>Last time I checked them, they were refering to Florianīs
>http://www.drdos.org, which I think is the best DR-DOS
>related site around at the moment.

     I didn't see it there, but I have managed to find my
way to it.

>But yes, Lineo itself do not provide any kind support to
>end users. Itīs a shame.

>> From all my reading of e-Mail lists, I have been lead
>> to believe that DR DOS can be installed to the Drive D: in
>> my setup above.

>Well, it should work, but Alain mentioned it several times,
>that the DR-DOS boot partition must be the first one.

     Some times it can take a while before things sink in
and I comprehend.

>So far I never had problems booting of other primary
>partitions, but it could happen that my DR-DOS partition
>always was the first one. I will have to retest this
>the next time I will partition a harddisk.

     Don't worry about it for me.  I think this issue
is pretty well resolved in my mind.

>If it does not work, than I would consider this as being
>a bug and it would require a fix - which gives a deadlock
>in the current situation with stalled offical development.

>>      And, if it is, where do I find info telling me how
>> to do it?

>In general, all you need to do is setting up the active
>partition flag in the Master Boot Record (MBR). You can
>do this with a disk editor, but also many FDISK utilities
>will allow you to change the "active partition". (This is
>what you were refering to as "assigning drive letter C:"
>in the FreeDOS mailing list, which is a wrong description
>of what happens at system level:

     Break Break  Time OUT.

     No, it is not wrong.  I am coming from a totally
different direction, place, where I don't think you
have ever been.  I have experienced what I am talking
about for twenty years or so.  It goes against Bill
Gates wishes for control.

     "Assigning drive letter C:" is more than just
setting a partition active.

     In the current setup I have the following 4
"primary type" partitions

     First Primary  -  Drive C:
     Second Primary -  Drive C:
     Third Primary  -  Drive C:
     Extended Partition

     Now, the above is a slight overstatement ( for getting
attention purposes ) because of course there can not be
three Drive C: partitions.

     I used OS/2's Fdisk to create these partitions.  It has
a function called "Assign Drive C:."  So one of the three
partitions will have the drive letter C: assigned to it and
the other two will not have ANY drive letter assigned to them. The Drive
C: partition will be the active partition.

     Now, I have experimented and used a DOS Fdisk, and it
will move the "Active" assignment from one partition to
another.  However, it will not move the Drive C: assignment.
So, a DOS Fdisk can not be used to change which of the three
partitions will be bootable.  OS/2's Fdisk can and some of
the Boot Managers can.

     GAG is the only boot manager other than OS/2's that I
have any experience with.

     The going back twenty years bit is with Zenith's
improved versions of MS DOS.  Zenith would replace Microsoft's Fdisk with
a program they called "Part.exe."  It behaved the way OS/2's Fdisk
behaves.

     With part, one could create up to 4 primary partitions on a hard
drive.  Each and everyone would be drive C:.  Using "Part", the user would
decide which one to boot from.

     Mr Gates didn't like that and did his best to wipe that
flexibility out.

>                                  it just looks so to the
>user, because if the active partition is a valid DOS FAT
>partition, you will boot the OS that is loaded from the
>bootsector in that partition - and this DOS will assign
>drive letter C: to its boot partition.) Under DR-DOS,
>the other primary partitions will not be visible, while -
>as I learned recently - they will be visible (at the end
>of the drive letter chain) under newer issues of MS-DOS.

>In case you do not want the other partitions to be visible
>you can add 10h to the partition type indicator in the
>MBR, that is type 06h will become 16h. Many boot managers
>(including the IBM and Powerquest Boot Manager) will do
>this.

     OK, that helps explain what I am seeing in the GAG
Boot Manager setup.

>Hope it helps,

     Yes.

> Matthias

     Thank you sir.  I am trying to end this thread.  You
keep writing and I feel obligated to reply. <G>

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