Mail Archives: opendos/2001/05/31/03:24:00
Yes, I too had previously found that the M$-bundled dialler wouldn't
work properly with other browsers (that is, Netscape).
However, what I was asking about the Trumpet TCP/IP stack was ...
is that the Trumpet stack for Windoze or the one for DOS? Also, I
am interested to know if your "IE5 over W3.1 install" used M$-DOS
or DR-DOS as the underlying O/S? <g>
BTW, I cannot agree with your posting about Lan Manager vs. Novell,
as I find the Lan Manager (MS Client) stuff uses far more conventional
memory (particularly as the Novell Client32 stuff could run in extended
memory, leaving lots of free upper memory too :-). The Novell stuff was
also less CPU intrusive. With the Lan Manager stuff, significant slices
of CPU time disappear (several ms in duration), resulting in unreliable
operation of certain applications which need to operate in "real-time".
In my case, that tends to be some dedicated comm's stuff and various
(hardware) programmers for microcontrollers, for which I now have to boot
without loading the network drivers, for this stuff to work reliably. I also
find that error detection and recovery of this Lan Manager stuff is poor.
When packets corrupt on the Lan, these don't seem to be corrected
transparently and applications seem to receive the corrupted stuff, often
causing them to crash.
Joe.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas A Webb [SMTP:tawebb AT earthlink DOT net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2001 23:06
> To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> Subject: Re: Fwd: DRDOS & IP (also IE5 for W3.X)
>
> Most of our applications run on ethernet backbones through a Linux
> gateway and have ethernet cards. For NCSA or Arachne on drdos, a packet
> driver is all that's required as the dos applications supply the ip
> stack.. (There are a number of ppp-slip dialers that present the
> standard packet driver face to the world and work just fine.)
>
> I am running IE5 Win31 Trumpet over drdos with an ethernet connection to
> the ouside world, and it smokes.. My experience with MS provided dialers
> has been bad; I suggest using a dialer like that supplied with Arachne
> with the winpkt shim. MS has the bad habit of being "Proprietary" and
> doesn't always play well with the other kids :-)
>
> "da Silva, Joe" wrote:
> >
> > When you say "Trumpet winsock as the protocol stack", that's the
> > Trumpet Windoze TCP/IP stack, not the Trumpet DOS TCP/IP stack,
> > right?
> >
> > Also, remember "I am running ie5. using trumpet for the tcp/ip stack,
> > and it works fine" (2001/03/14) ... ? Well, I finally managed to install
> > IE5 for W3.X ... by booting from a MS-DOS 6.22 floppy first!!! It simply
> > would not install the dialler or browser using DR-DOS 6.0 or 7.02(+)!
> > Am I right to assume, the machines where you managed to install
> > this stuff, were running M$-DOS & Windoze 3.X ?
> >
> > Joe.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Thomas A Webb [SMTP:tawebb AT earthlink DOT net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 29 May 2001 4:32
> > > To: opendos AT delorie DOT com
> > > Subject: Re: Fwd: DRDOS & IP
> > >
> > > Drdos supports ipx, a novell protocol. Out of the crate, it doesn't
> > > support IP.
> > >
> > > IP for dos is available in many flavors and most work with drdos quite
> > > well. For users of win3x, use a packet driver for ethernet or ppp
> > > connections, winpkt shim, and Trumpet winsock as the protocol stack.
> It
> > > works well and is a bit faster than the same machine running MicroSoft
> > > dos. There is a ton of stuff for IP on dos at Simtel. If anyone needs
> > > specific help on this, I have been using it in recycling and teaching
> > > situations, and can help via email.
> > >
> > >
> > > Florian Xaver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, someone can help me?
> > > > I don't know the answerd:
> > > >
> > > > > Somewhere I've seen something like "DR-DOS supports DOS TCP/IP
> > > stack". But
> > > > > when I tried to DL this "new" version, I could find only old
> 1999
> > > version,
> > > >
> > > > > which I got that year from Caldera.
> > > >
> > > > > How about IP support in DR-DOS? Could you clarify the situation?
> > > >
> > > > so long,flox
> > > >
> > > > Dr-DOS - the unofficial page - http://www.drdos.org
> > > > SEAL - the best GUI for (Free)DOS - http://www.seal.de.vu
> > > > Ostbahnkurti -
> > > http://www.archlab.tuwien.ac.at/~hase/franz/konzert_kal.html
> > > > -=Lieber Inl?nder Rum als Ausl?nder raus!=-
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Thomas Webb
> > > Come visit at http://wordwonder.com
>
> --
>
> Thomas Webb
> Come visit at http://wordwonder.com
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